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interesting, that is the price to stop apple create its own search engine.

netdur 8y ago
There's absolute no way they can do, the search engine is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). edit: Google is not doing the best at searching, they are doing the best by budget current economy allows, to be better than Google you have to cut cost of operation in very dramatic way, so you can expand the beyond where Google stands now, other than that, you can't outperform Google.
- hindsightRegret 8y ago
  I, for one, welcome our quantum word salad overlords.
  - shhehebehdh 8y ago
    Don't be rude to non-skilled English speakers. The comment is wrong but not because of its poor English.
- luckylion 8y ago
  I suppose that depends on how you finance it. For Apple, it could be a feature of their ecosystem; for Google, the search engine is just there to lure you in so they can show you ads. That would be a totally different story: does Google actually have incentive to provide you with the best organic results next to which the ads would look out of place and bad? I don't think it would be a good business decision for Apple though, and there's no guarantee that they could even get there with throwing billions of dollars at it.
- throwawaymath 8y ago
  > to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). Sorry, what? Can you clarify?
  - netdur 8y ago
    yep, some mad scientists are trying to create storage device with huge space, trying with biological and quantum means, the promise is to store all of internet information in a single device if that happen, it would be possible to INDEX all of internet at very low cost and being competitive with Google. just think about how much it cost Google or BING to index 1 billion static pages.
- onetimemanytime 8y ago
  >>There's absolute no way they can do, the search engine is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). There's absolute no way they can do, Maps is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage).
  - dmitriid 8y ago
    To get serious for a second, here's an amazing article on how far Google Maps is ahead: https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat/ https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat/ It is very hard to catch up with them.
    - onetimemanytime 8y ago
      OK, but the term "good enough" exists for a reason. How many users did Apple lose by not using G Maps? So, Apple would need a "good enough" search engine and they'd buy DDG over a cup of coffee. Invest in improving it. And, yes, they're for sale, just as Microsoft or Exxon is (for the right amount of money)
    - solarkraft 8y ago
      Yet people use Apple Maps because they like the UX and it fulfills 90% of their mapping needs.
      - Infinitesimus 8y ago
        And also because every iPhone has it pre-installed. The game would be different if it was an optional download
reaperducer 8y ago
interesting, that is the price to stop apple create its own search engine. Launching, perhaps. Creating? No one knows. Maybe one day when Google decides it doesn't need Apple anymore, Tim Cook will pull a "One more thing..." at WWDC.

There's absolute no way they can do, the search engine is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). edit: Google is not doing the best at searching, they are doing the best by budget current economy allows, to be better than Google you have to cut cost of operation in very dramatic way, so you can expand the beyond where Google stands now, other than that, you can't outperform Google.

hindsightRegret 8y ago
I, for one, welcome our quantum word salad overlords.
- shhehebehdh 8y ago
  Don't be rude to non-skilled English speakers. The comment is wrong but not because of its poor English.
luckylion 8y ago
I suppose that depends on how you finance it. For Apple, it could be a feature of their ecosystem; for Google, the search engine is just there to lure you in so they can show you ads. That would be a totally different story: does Google actually have incentive to provide you with the best organic results next to which the ads would look out of place and bad? I don't think it would be a good business decision for Apple though, and there's no guarantee that they could even get there with throwing billions of dollars at it.
throwawaymath 8y ago
> to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). Sorry, what? Can you clarify?
- netdur 8y ago
  yep, some mad scientists are trying to create storage device with huge space, trying with biological and quantum means, the promise is to store all of internet information in a single device if that happen, it would be possible to INDEX all of internet at very low cost and being competitive with Google. just think about how much it cost Google or BING to index 1 billion static pages.
onetimemanytime 8y ago
>>There's absolute no way they can do, the search engine is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage). There's absolute no way they can do, Maps is very very expensive to operate, to be successful you have to be better than Google and that require none existing technologies (such quantum storage).
- dmitriid 8y ago
  To get serious for a second, here's an amazing article on how far Google Maps is ahead: https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat/ https://www.justinobeirne.com/google-maps-moat/ It is very hard to catch up with them.
  - onetimemanytime 8y ago
    OK, but the term "good enough" exists for a reason. How many users did Apple lose by not using G Maps? So, Apple would need a "good enough" search engine and they'd buy DDG over a cup of coffee. Invest in improving it. And, yes, they're for sale, just as Microsoft or Exxon is (for the right amount of money)
  - solarkraft 8y ago
    Yet people use Apple Maps because they like the UX and it fulfills 90% of their mapping needs.
    - Infinitesimus 8y ago
      And also because every iPhone has it pre-installed. The game would be different if it was an optional download

reaperducer 8y ago

interesting, that is the price to stop apple create its own search engine. Launching, perhaps. Creating? No one knows. Maybe one day when Google decides it doesn't need Apple anymore, Tim Cook will pull a "One more thing..." at WWDC.