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Apple fails to block porn and gambling “enterprise” apps

106 points by sharcerer 8y ago

graphememes 8y ago
Ah, yes, we should all bow and curtsey to the TechCrunch's journalist's idea of Apple's responsibility. Apple should immediately start cracking down on what users decide to run on their devices, and lick this journalist's boots for his generous thoughts on the matter.
anth_anm 8y ago
> Without proper oversight, they were able to operate these vice apps that blatantly flaunt Apple’s content policies. Good.
- FabHK 8y ago
  Are you jokingly referring to the fact that they were flouting (ie, ignoring) the rules, while the article seems to say that they were ostentatiously displaying (ie, flaunting) the rules? Or are you just saying that it's good thing that they could operate apps against Apple's rules?
  - gammateam 8y ago
    There is no reason to respect Apple’s authority
  - anth_anm 8y ago
    It's good that they challenge the walled garden approach and Apple's particular brand of moralism. I don't need porn or gambling on my phone. I think it's entirely reasonable for adults to make that choice.
  - egwynn 8y ago
    FWIW, I think the article's use of the word ‘flaunting’ was malapropism and not deliberate word-play.
mrweasel 8y ago
I'm still not entirely sure why Apple cares about porn, they have people credit card information, that should be sufficient for age verification, in most cases. Gambling may provide Apple with some legal issues in most countries. It's clearly a large market, and with 30% percent cut of subscriptions, it could be a lucrative business for Apple.
- atonse 8y ago
  They like to tightly control the message with regards to their brand, and that's one of clean, white, bleached happiness. This stance has also hurt them with original content. A lot of great original content on other networks has had graphic violence or nudity, and they've stayed away, instead pushing bland shows that nobody seems to care about. Maybe that'll change. But I'm not holding my breath, because I think this is a core value coming straight from Tim Cook.
  - chipotle_coyote 8y ago
    I think it's a little too early to definitively say that Apple's forthcoming video streaming service only has "bland shows that nobody seems to care about," given that we haven't actually seen any of those shows yet. (Remember, "Carpool Karaoke" and "Planet of the Apps" predate this planned service and the hiring of ex-Sony execs to oversee it.) There are conflicting reports about whether that service will allow over PG-13 content, and if it doesn't, then sure, that's potentially a problem -- it limits what creators are going to be able to do, which in turn may limit the creators you can attract. But given that 18 of the top 20 box office hits of 2018 were PG or PG-13, it's pretty clear you can make content that people care strongly about within those limitations.
    - lozenge 8y ago
      But do enough people want to subscribe to a service that doesn't have any edgy content? (No drug use, no graphic violence, no sex, no political documentaries).
      - 8y ago
untog 8y ago
I feel like the answer here is simple: Apple removes the apps and monitors this stuff more strictly in the future. The creators of the apps make progressive web apps.
- freehunter 8y ago
  Progressive web apps which unfortunately don't work on iOS.
  - untog 8y ago
    Safari supports them now. Not the full API, but enough for a porn or gambling app to get by (but then, so is a non-progressive web app, I'm not sure what they're doing that really warrants a native app)
    - phreack 8y ago
      Push notifications, most likely
  - ziont 8y ago
    and takes forever to load on a typical cellular network in Canada. Fuck PWAs, I've seen some retailers who ditched it because it ended up hurting their conversions. Certain demographics DO NOT want to see stare at fucking blank page with grey rectangles because it offers 'superior customer experience essential'. They want webpages that load fast, they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs. Yeah, if the entire world was on 5g already, but even then, people simply don't trust PWAs vs apps from the Google or Apple store. In their minds, its safer because a large corporation is "looking after" them. PWA and AMP are a dud, and the lack of adoption shows this.
    - untog 8y ago
      Seems like you're confusing a number of things here. Progressive web apps can be cached offline and load instantly. They typically have smaller download sizes than native apps. There's zero reason for a PWA to take longer to load than a web page because a PWA is a web page. Perhaps your complaint is with Single Page Apps? That's a legitimate complaint, but doesn't really have a lot to do with PWAs. > they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs. Users don't know what "responsive design is". But conversion stats for sites that have a specific mobile layout vs ones where you're pinch-and-zooming constantly show that users are a lot more productive on sites with a mobile view.
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coupdejarnac 8y ago
I've seen at least one company use the Enterprise program to circumvent paying Apple 30%. One company I know preloads their app on an iPad, resells the iPad and associated hardware, and charges a subscription to use the app.
- saagarjha 8y ago
  There are apps that straight up jailbreak your phone distributed under enterprise certificates.
  - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
    And as the owner of a Jailbroken iPhone, I'm quite happy they exist!
- Swenrekcah 8y ago
  Good for them, Apple’s 30% is more akin to extortion than a fair distribution fee.
  - ehsankia 8y ago
    It's not only a distribution fee. Someone had to develop the frameworks, the APIs, the OS and all the other systems that allows for your App to exist. These things aren't free and take resources to make and run. We can argue about the exact % but people often take all the work that goes behind the scene for granted. Same for Youtube and any other platform. We're just so used to having it all for free that we forget the sheer amount of work that goes into making and maintaining the platform.
    - Operyl 8y ago
      Ok. But that’s also baked into the cost of the device at sale. If we’re talking about the App Store, bandwidth, redistribution, etc that it provides sure. But .. I don’t agree with your listed examples.
0x0 8y ago
As an iOS developer, I sometimes receive emails from some brazen enterprising person with poor spelling and grammar inquiring about the possibility to "borrow" our company creds for registering an iOS enterprise developer certificate, usually with some nonsense explanation like "helping them out with their beta testing needs" (as if testflight doesn't even exist) and that "it won't impact your app store apps" (ha!). Of course these emails go straight to the junk folder, but it is very apparent that there is a demand and a black market for iOS enterprise distribution certificates, and people are willing to beg, borrow and probably steal such certificates in any which way they can.
- rubicon33 8y ago
  Who is simultaneously a programmer AND dumb enough to fall for that? It's basically the same as someone randomly emailing you asking for your password.
  - darkpuma 8y ago
    Dishonest people. Con artists often target the dishonest and greedy; people who understand that something is a pyramid scheme but think they can get out with a profit before it collapses. Or perhaps in this case, somebody who thinks the future business potential for their enterprise cert won't be as profitable as selling use of it to shady people.
- writepub 8y ago
  > brazen enterprising person with poor spelling and grammar Oh the horror, If only they used proper English, the intent to steal certs would be some much more tolerable!
jmull 8y ago
They say this like it's a bad thing.
b_b 8y ago
It seems ironic to me that the HN crowd seems to support these circumvention of Apple's insular app distribution strategy, but on the other hand also supports Apple's clamp down on efforts to stop privacy violating apps. For my part, I guess I would prefer that Apple at least open up iOS devices to both the app store and allowing users to install non-App Store apps, the Android model. This would probably satisfy both casual and more tech-savvy users. Unfortunately, I don't see Apple doing this any time as they are all about profits, and this strategy has been working very well so far.
- chipotle_coyote 8y ago
  I admit that back when Apple created "Gatekeeper" for OS X, er, macOS, I had high hopes this was laying groundwork that would come to iOS later -- that we'd be able to flip a switch in Settings which allowed us to install signed apps from non-Apple storefronts. Yes, this would potentially reduce Apple's profits (and it's hard not to suspect you're correct in guessing that's why it hasn't happened), but it's hard not to think that most developers would still make their apps available in Apple's storefront the way most Android apps are available on the Google Play store. I still feel like this would solve more problems than it creates not just for users and developers, but for Apple, too.
- pentae 8y ago
  Well as you said yourself, people should be able to side load whatever they want outside of the official store if they are so willing. The general consensus is that their authoritarian approach on the App Store is a positive for consumers and also for Apples brand. So I don't see any hypocrisy here.
  - freeone3000 8y ago
    You can't run unsigned apps on an iPhone. No, not even your own. You can't generate a certificate for an iPhone app longer than one week, and even then, the certificate you generate only lets you run code on an iPhone physically connected to the computer where the certificate was generated. EVERY OTHER way to get a certificate, including for internal development and testing through testflight, requires the app to go through review. Every. Single. One. It's not simply for putting the app on the app store, it's for running the app at all. Enterprise certificates were supposed to be a way for a company to avoid shipping their internal tools to Apple, but they turn out to be a way to actually run useful code on an iPhone, even if it's not something Apple wants you to do.
rvanmil 8y ago
We’ve been slowly moving away from enterprise certificates at our customers and using the “Custom Business Apps” route in Apple’s app store instead. It is a much more streamlined experience, no certificates to worry about and easier distribution. You will have to deal with app review but so far this has not been a problem at all. We’ve also seen Apple deny requests for enterprise certificates without reason (and they wouldn’t give it after asking), which makes me think they might even want to get rid of this channel in the long term.
tobyhinloopen 8y ago
Why cant we have porn or gambling apps on our iPhone though... cmon apple. I get that you don’t want them in the store but at least add an adult store or something
mikenew 8y ago
> The situation shows further evidence that Apple has been neglecting its responsibility to police the Enterprise Certificate program Really? We're there now? It's become Apple's "responsibility" to police every last corner of iOS? I feel like this should not be viewed as "Apple prevents developers from distributing their controversial apps" but rather "Apple prevents users from running controversial apps". If I want to have porn apps on my phone that is my business and no one else's. This debate has been going on since the start of the App store, but now that macOS is steadily becoming more iOS-like and mobile devices are increasingly becoming people's only computing platform, it's becoming more important. For example, Apple removed an app that notified the user whenever a US drone strike caused fatalities because "it was objectionable to some users". There are a lot of objectionable things that are really important. Apple blocks VPN apps in China, for example, and since there's no other way to install apps besides compiling it yourself (which has to be done on a Mac, and even then the code signature expires after a week) there really isn't an option for almost everyone in China. Apple is continually praised for their stance on privacy, but privacy doesn't mean so much when you don't have freedom. And Apple is hostile towards user freedom. https://gawker.com/apple-kills-drone-strike-news-app-for-being-too-crude-1733402994 https://gawker.com/apple-kills-drone-strike-news-app-for-bei...
- freedomben 8y ago
  > Really? We're there now? It's become Apple's "responsibility" to police every last corner of iOS? I find it disgusting, but really Apple is the only one to blame for that when they started aggressively policing and removing apps, and then marketing to customers based on that. I've heard people on HN state ad nauseam that they love that Apple does this, and that it's one of the reasons they live in the Apple ecosystem. They want to be protected from running apps that might do something objectionable (according to Apple's standard), and are absolutely willing to trade their freedom for some security. I obviously don't agree with this at all (I refer you to Cory Doctorow's War on General Purpose Computing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYXBJOFgeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYXBJOFgeI ) but it is a position I can understand.
  - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
outsidetheparty 8y ago
How thoughtful of TechCrunch to include a list of URLs for all of the porn and gambling apps they found. (Seriously, I find that editorial decision pretty surprising. The table of certificate holders and their types of business seems journalistically relevant; download links maybe less so.)
- intopieces 8y ago
  In the age where anyone can say “fake news” and immediately cast doubt on the veracity of a journalist’s claims, it makes sense to be super transparent here.
trhway 8y ago
>Apple offers a lookup tool for finding any business’ D-U-N-S number, allowing shady developers to forge their Enterprise Certificate application. no kidding. Next would be DNB itself : https://www.dnb.com/duns-number/lookup.html https://www.dnb.com/duns-number/lookup.html While DUNS are practically "SSN for enterprises", Techcrunch probably thinks that DUNS are used as a security-by-obscurity tool/measure in the same way as SSN is used. Fortunately for all of us - it isnt.
caffed 8y ago
Mobile Safari is the worst offender.
Ahmedb 8y ago
There is a huge aftermarket for iOS Entreprise certificates. They either get stolen or attacker get their hands on the users credentials.
GeekyBear 8y ago
Since this is an option that seems to get ignored in these discussions, if you are an end user and you want to use unsigned apps, jailbreaking your device allows you to do this. After jailbreaking, you can use a third party App Store like Cydia to find and install unsigned apps. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia Doing this does not prevent you from using Apple's App Store or it's apps.
- chii 8y ago
  Jailbreaking often voids your warranty. If it's already out of warranty,then ok. But know the risks.
  - GeekyBear 8y ago
    It's no more difficult to restore the device to factory defaults than it is to jailbreak it. https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unjailbreak-your-iphone-restore-back-factory-settings-0155798/ https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unjailbreak-your-iphone-r...

106 points by sharcerer 8y ago

Ah, yes, we should all bow and curtsey to the TechCrunch's journalist's idea of Apple's responsibility. Apple should immediately start cracking down on what users decide to run on their devices, and lick this journalist's boots for his generous thoughts on the matter.

anth_anm 8y ago

> Without proper oversight, they were able to operate these vice apps that blatantly flaunt Apple’s content policies. Good.

FabHK 8y ago
Are you jokingly referring to the fact that they were flouting (ie, ignoring) the rules, while the article seems to say that they were ostentatiously displaying (ie, flaunting) the rules? Or are you just saying that it's good thing that they could operate apps against Apple's rules?
- gammateam 8y ago
  There is no reason to respect Apple’s authority
- anth_anm 8y ago
  It's good that they challenge the walled garden approach and Apple's particular brand of moralism. I don't need porn or gambling on my phone. I think it's entirely reasonable for adults to make that choice.
- egwynn 8y ago
  FWIW, I think the article's use of the word ‘flaunting’ was malapropism and not deliberate word-play.

mrweasel 8y ago

I'm still not entirely sure why Apple cares about porn, they have people credit card information, that should be sufficient for age verification, in most cases. Gambling may provide Apple with some legal issues in most countries. It's clearly a large market, and with 30% percent cut of subscriptions, it could be a lucrative business for Apple.

atonse 8y ago
They like to tightly control the message with regards to their brand, and that's one of clean, white, bleached happiness. This stance has also hurt them with original content. A lot of great original content on other networks has had graphic violence or nudity, and they've stayed away, instead pushing bland shows that nobody seems to care about. Maybe that'll change. But I'm not holding my breath, because I think this is a core value coming straight from Tim Cook.
- chipotle_coyote 8y ago
  I think it's a little too early to definitively say that Apple's forthcoming video streaming service only has "bland shows that nobody seems to care about," given that we haven't actually seen any of those shows yet. (Remember, "Carpool Karaoke" and "Planet of the Apps" predate this planned service and the hiring of ex-Sony execs to oversee it.) There are conflicting reports about whether that service will allow over PG-13 content, and if it doesn't, then sure, that's potentially a problem -- it limits what creators are going to be able to do, which in turn may limit the creators you can attract. But given that 18 of the top 20 box office hits of 2018 were PG or PG-13, it's pretty clear you can make content that people care strongly about within those limitations.
  - lozenge 8y ago
    But do enough people want to subscribe to a service that doesn't have any edgy content? (No drug use, no graphic violence, no sex, no political documentaries).
    - 8y ago

untog 8y ago

I feel like the answer here is simple: Apple removes the apps and monitors this stuff more strictly in the future. The creators of the apps make progressive web apps.

freehunter 8y ago
Progressive web apps which unfortunately don't work on iOS.
- untog 8y ago
  Safari supports them now. Not the full API, but enough for a porn or gambling app to get by (but then, so is a non-progressive web app, I'm not sure what they're doing that really warrants a native app)
  - phreack 8y ago
    Push notifications, most likely
- ziont 8y ago
  and takes forever to load on a typical cellular network in Canada. Fuck PWAs, I've seen some retailers who ditched it because it ended up hurting their conversions. Certain demographics DO NOT want to see stare at fucking blank page with grey rectangles because it offers 'superior customer experience essential'. They want webpages that load fast, they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs. Yeah, if the entire world was on 5g already, but even then, people simply don't trust PWAs vs apps from the Google or Apple store. In their minds, its safer because a large corporation is "looking after" them. PWA and AMP are a dud, and the lack of adoption shows this.
  - untog 8y ago
    Seems like you're confusing a number of things here. Progressive web apps can be cached offline and load instantly. They typically have smaller download sizes than native apps. There's zero reason for a PWA to take longer to load than a web page because a PWA is a web page. Perhaps your complaint is with Single Page Apps? That's a legitimate complaint, but doesn't really have a lot to do with PWAs. > they don't even give a shit about Responsive designs. Users don't know what "responsive design is". But conversion stats for sites that have a specific mobile layout vs ones where you're pinch-and-zooming constantly show that users are a lot more productive on sites with a mobile view.

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coupdejarnac 8y ago

I've seen at least one company use the Enterprise program to circumvent paying Apple 30%. One company I know preloads their app on an iPad, resells the iPad and associated hardware, and charges a subscription to use the app.

saagarjha 8y ago
There are apps that straight up jailbreak your phone distributed under enterprise certificates.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago
  And as the owner of a Jailbroken iPhone, I'm quite happy they exist!
Swenrekcah 8y ago
Good for them, Apple’s 30% is more akin to extortion than a fair distribution fee.
- ehsankia 8y ago
  It's not only a distribution fee. Someone had to develop the frameworks, the APIs, the OS and all the other systems that allows for your App to exist. These things aren't free and take resources to make and run. We can argue about the exact % but people often take all the work that goes behind the scene for granted. Same for Youtube and any other platform. We're just so used to having it all for free that we forget the sheer amount of work that goes into making and maintaining the platform.
  - Operyl 8y ago
    Ok. But that’s also baked into the cost of the device at sale. If we’re talking about the App Store, bandwidth, redistribution, etc that it provides sure. But .. I don’t agree with your listed examples.

0x0 8y ago

As an iOS developer, I sometimes receive emails from some brazen enterprising person with poor spelling and grammar inquiring about the possibility to "borrow" our company creds for registering an iOS enterprise developer certificate, usually with some nonsense explanation like "helping them out with their beta testing needs" (as if testflight doesn't even exist) and that "it won't impact your app store apps" (ha!). Of course these emails go straight to the junk folder, but it is very apparent that there is a demand and a black market for iOS enterprise distribution certificates, and people are willing to beg, borrow and probably steal such certificates in any which way they can.

rubicon33 8y ago
Who is simultaneously a programmer AND dumb enough to fall for that? It's basically the same as someone randomly emailing you asking for your password.
- darkpuma 8y ago
  Dishonest people. Con artists often target the dishonest and greedy; people who understand that something is a pyramid scheme but think they can get out with a profit before it collapses. Or perhaps in this case, somebody who thinks the future business potential for their enterprise cert won't be as profitable as selling use of it to shady people.
writepub 8y ago
> brazen enterprising person with poor spelling and grammar Oh the horror, If only they used proper English, the intent to steal certs would be some much more tolerable!

jmull 8y ago

They say this like it's a bad thing.

b_b 8y ago

It seems ironic to me that the HN crowd seems to support these circumvention of Apple's insular app distribution strategy, but on the other hand also supports Apple's clamp down on efforts to stop privacy violating apps. For my part, I guess I would prefer that Apple at least open up iOS devices to both the app store and allowing users to install non-App Store apps, the Android model. This would probably satisfy both casual and more tech-savvy users. Unfortunately, I don't see Apple doing this any time as they are all about profits, and this strategy has been working very well so far.

chipotle_coyote 8y ago
I admit that back when Apple created "Gatekeeper" for OS X, er, macOS, I had high hopes this was laying groundwork that would come to iOS later -- that we'd be able to flip a switch in Settings which allowed us to install signed apps from non-Apple storefronts. Yes, this would potentially reduce Apple's profits (and it's hard not to suspect you're correct in guessing that's why it hasn't happened), but it's hard not to think that most developers would still make their apps available in Apple's storefront the way most Android apps are available on the Google Play store. I still feel like this would solve more problems than it creates not just for users and developers, but for Apple, too.
pentae 8y ago
Well as you said yourself, people should be able to side load whatever they want outside of the official store if they are so willing. The general consensus is that their authoritarian approach on the App Store is a positive for consumers and also for Apples brand. So I don't see any hypocrisy here.
- freeone3000 8y ago
  You can't run unsigned apps on an iPhone. No, not even your own. You can't generate a certificate for an iPhone app longer than one week, and even then, the certificate you generate only lets you run code on an iPhone physically connected to the computer where the certificate was generated. EVERY OTHER way to get a certificate, including for internal development and testing through testflight, requires the app to go through review. Every. Single. One. It's not simply for putting the app on the app store, it's for running the app at all. Enterprise certificates were supposed to be a way for a company to avoid shipping their internal tools to Apple, but they turn out to be a way to actually run useful code on an iPhone, even if it's not something Apple wants you to do.

rvanmil 8y ago

We’ve been slowly moving away from enterprise certificates at our customers and using the “Custom Business Apps” route in Apple’s app store instead. It is a much more streamlined experience, no certificates to worry about and easier distribution. You will have to deal with app review but so far this has not been a problem at all. We’ve also seen Apple deny requests for enterprise certificates without reason (and they wouldn’t give it after asking), which makes me think they might even want to get rid of this channel in the long term.

tobyhinloopen 8y ago

Why cant we have porn or gambling apps on our iPhone though... cmon apple. I get that you don’t want them in the store but at least add an adult store or something

mikenew 8y ago

> The situation shows further evidence that Apple has been neglecting its responsibility to police the Enterprise Certificate program Really? We're there now? It's become Apple's "responsibility" to police every last corner of iOS? I feel like this should not be viewed as "Apple prevents developers from distributing their controversial apps" but rather "Apple prevents users from running controversial apps". If I want to have porn apps on my phone that is my business and no one else's. This debate has been going on since the start of the App store, but now that macOS is steadily becoming more iOS-like and mobile devices are increasingly becoming people's only computing platform, it's becoming more important. For example, Apple removed an app that notified the user whenever a US drone strike caused fatalities because "it was objectionable to some users". There are a lot of objectionable things that are really important. Apple blocks VPN apps in China, for example, and since there's no other way to install apps besides compiling it yourself (which has to be done on a Mac, and even then the code signature expires after a week) there really isn't an option for almost everyone in China. Apple is continually praised for their stance on privacy, but privacy doesn't mean so much when you don't have freedom. And Apple is hostile towards user freedom. https://gawker.com/apple-kills-drone-strike-news-app-for-being-too-crude-1733402994 https://gawker.com/apple-kills-drone-strike-news-app-for-bei...

freedomben 8y ago
> Really? We're there now? It's become Apple's "responsibility" to police every last corner of iOS? I find it disgusting, but really Apple is the only one to blame for that when they started aggressively policing and removing apps, and then marketing to customers based on that. I've heard people on HN state ad nauseam that they love that Apple does this, and that it's one of the reasons they live in the Apple ecosystem. They want to be protected from running apps that might do something objectionable (according to Apple's standard), and are absolutely willing to trade their freedom for some security. I obviously don't agree with this at all (I refer you to Cory Doctorow's War on General Purpose Computing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYXBJOFgeI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbYXBJOFgeI ) but it is a position I can understand.
- Wowfunhappy 8y ago

outsidetheparty 8y ago

How thoughtful of TechCrunch to include a list of URLs for all of the porn and gambling apps they found. (Seriously, I find that editorial decision pretty surprising. The table of certificate holders and their types of business seems journalistically relevant; download links maybe less so.)

intopieces 8y ago
In the age where anyone can say “fake news” and immediately cast doubt on the veracity of a journalist’s claims, it makes sense to be super transparent here.

trhway 8y ago

>Apple offers a lookup tool for finding any business’ D-U-N-S number, allowing shady developers to forge their Enterprise Certificate application. no kidding. Next would be DNB itself : https://www.dnb.com/duns-number/lookup.html https://www.dnb.com/duns-number/lookup.html While DUNS are practically "SSN for enterprises", Techcrunch probably thinks that DUNS are used as a security-by-obscurity tool/measure in the same way as SSN is used. Fortunately for all of us - it isnt.

caffed 8y ago

Mobile Safari is the worst offender.

Ahmedb 8y ago

There is a huge aftermarket for iOS Entreprise certificates. They either get stolen or attacker get their hands on the users credentials.

GeekyBear 8y ago

Since this is an option that seems to get ignored in these discussions, if you are an end user and you want to use unsigned apps, jailbreaking your device allows you to do this. After jailbreaking, you can use a third party App Store like Cydia to find and install unsigned apps. https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cydia Doing this does not prevent you from using Apple's App Store or it's apps.

chii 8y ago
Jailbreaking often voids your warranty. If it's already out of warranty,then ok. But know the risks.
- GeekyBear 8y ago
  It's no more difficult to restore the device to factory defaults than it is to jailbreak it. https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unjailbreak-your-iphone-restore-back-factory-settings-0155798/ https://ios.gadgethacks.com/how-to/unjailbreak-your-iphone-r...