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It's really sad the WebKit has won. We're now back to single vendor. With Firefox being the only independent rendering engine and that's been on a downwards t

by Jonnax 8y ago

It's really sad the WebKit has won. We're now back to single vendor. With Firefox being the only independent rendering engine and that's been on a downwards trajectory.

nicoburns 8y ago
A downwards user share trajectory, but an upwards technical one as of late. But yeah, it's pretty worrying that a webkit monoculture is developing. At least webkit is open source, so google won't really have a true monopoly (at least apple and microsoft will have competing (if still webkit based) implementations).
- giornogiovanna 8y ago
  A downwards user-share trajectory, and a downwards reputation trajectory. I don't think that all the hate Mozilla's getting is deserved, but a lot of people didn't like that one easter egg, or the mess with Pocket.
  - irrational 8y ago
    I've been using Firefox continually since the first version. I don't recall any easter egg. Is it still in the browser?
    - giornogiovanna 8y ago
      There was a Mr. Robot easter egg that lots of people were angry about.[0] I didn't notice it either, though. [0]: https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-investigates-mr-robot-firefox-extension-problem/ https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-investigates-mr-robot-fire...
      - marcosdumay 8y ago
        That's crazy, people trust them to ship the entire browser, but adding an extension makes them untrustworthy. What will those people say if they ever decide to break the browser into a core and user visible plugins?
bostonpete 8y ago
How has Webkit won? It's basically only used in Safari these days, right?
- Jonnax 8y ago
  It's effectively the same as Blink which is used by Chrome, soon to be edge and any other popular browser. Google certainly thinks so when they check the Firefox user agent on Android and give them a some cut down mobile version.
- giornogiovanna 8y ago
  Blink is a WebKit fork and is used by everyone, from Chrome to Opera, and soon, Edge. Apple and Google have gone their separate ways, and will make decisions separately, so WebKit isn't really contributing to the Blink monopoly.
alien_ 8y ago
The Webkit/Blink engine is far from being single vendor, they are vibrant open source projects with many companies that contribute to the development efforts, pretty much all browsers except for Firefox will be based on it soon. Web developers would rather have a single good engine, assuming that it's good enough and continuously developed. IE failed back when they all but ceased development for a number of years and since it was closed source nobody could take it over.

by Jonnax 8y ago

It's really sad the WebKit has won. We're now back to single vendor. With Firefox being the only independent rendering engine and that's been on a downwards trajectory.

nicoburns 8y ago

A downwards user share trajectory, but an upwards technical one as of late. But yeah, it's pretty worrying that a webkit monoculture is developing. At least webkit is open source, so google won't really have a true monopoly (at least apple and microsoft will have competing (if still webkit based) implementations).

giornogiovanna 8y ago
A downwards user-share trajectory, and a downwards reputation trajectory. I don't think that all the hate Mozilla's getting is deserved, but a lot of people didn't like that one easter egg, or the mess with Pocket.
- irrational 8y ago
  I've been using Firefox continually since the first version. I don't recall any easter egg. Is it still in the browser?
  - giornogiovanna 8y ago
    There was a Mr. Robot easter egg that lots of people were angry about.[0] I didn't notice it either, though. [0]: https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-investigates-mr-robot-firefox-extension-problem/ https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-investigates-mr-robot-fire...
    - marcosdumay 8y ago
      That's crazy, people trust them to ship the entire browser, but adding an extension makes them untrustworthy. What will those people say if they ever decide to break the browser into a core and user visible plugins?

bostonpete 8y ago

How has Webkit won? It's basically only used in Safari these days, right?

Jonnax 8y ago
It's effectively the same as Blink which is used by Chrome, soon to be edge and any other popular browser. Google certainly thinks so when they check the Firefox user agent on Android and give them a some cut down mobile version.
giornogiovanna 8y ago
Blink is a WebKit fork and is used by everyone, from Chrome to Opera, and soon, Edge. Apple and Google have gone their separate ways, and will make decisions separately, so WebKit isn't really contributing to the Blink monopoly.

alien_ 8y ago

The Webkit/Blink engine is far from being single vendor, they are vibrant open source projects with many companies that contribute to the development efforts, pretty much all browsers except for Firefox will be based on it soon. Web developers would rather have a single good engine, assuming that it's good enough and continuously developed. IE failed back when they all but ceased development for a number of years and since it was closed source nobody could take it over.