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Isn't this comparing apples to oranges? I haven't used koa, but it seems to be same level of abstraction as express - basically a thin layer over HTTP with rout

Isn't this comparing apples to oranges? I haven't used koa, but it seems to be same level of abstraction as express - basically a thin layer over HTTP with routing. Rails or Django are several levels higher - they include auth, database interaction, CRUD etc. I'm not saying that either approach is better, just that the comparison seems strange.

h1d 8y ago
I'm only saying what the OP and I'm stating is worthless because they're based on experience.
benbristow 8y ago
Rails doesn't include Auth. Devise does a great job of it though - https://github.com/plataformatec/devise https://github.com/plataformatec/devise
- e12e 8y ago
  It does include "has_secure_password" and its friends (password/password_confirmation) though, which goes a ways towards including auth/authz even if one doesn't use devise, when coupled with before_action-s. It certainly comes with some facilities for getting off the ground: https://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveModel/SecurePassword/ClassMethods.html https://api.rubyonrails.org/classes/ActiveModel/SecurePasswo...