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“Oops, we didn’t notice, but it’s another to be a company like Facebook that takes your private messages and sells that data. It takes your address, it takes yo

• simplecomplex 8y ago
  They don’t. It’s just part of the privacy and Facebook hysteria being pushed by the rage-machine that is the news cycle now.
  • blub 8y ago
    When people start realising they've been getting proper fucked for more than a decade by the SV surveilance capitalism machine (led by Google and Facebook) they will get a bit hysterical. I'd prepare myself for the incoming fines and regulation if I were you, instead of trying to do damage control.
• crooked-v 8y ago
  They don't sell your private messages. What they actually do is just give them away to business partners. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-privacy.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/18/technology/facebook-priva... > Facebook allowed Microsoft’s Bing search engine to see the names of virtually all Facebook users’ friends without consent, the records show, and gave Netflix and Spotify the ability to read Facebook users’ private messages.
  • simplecomplex 8y ago
    No, they didn’t “give it away”. Please let’s stick to facts. The news is being extremely dishonest. Apps that you could send FB messages through could see the message (how else would it work?) And it was explicitly opt-in, users had to authorize it. “Take Spotify for example. After signing in to your Facebook account in Spotify’s desktop app, you could then send and receive messages without ever leaving the app. Our API provided partners with access to the person’s messages in order to power this type of feature.” https://www.thewrap.com/members/2018/12/19/facebook-admits-netflix-spotify-access-user-messages/ https://www.thewrap.com/members/2018/12/19/facebook-admits-n...
    • shaki-dora 8y ago
      Read that quote again. It only says opt-in was needed to use this „feature“, not for data access. And that does not even include the other parties in those messages.
      • simplecomplex 8y ago
        “Did partners get access to messages? Yes. But people had to explicitly sign in to Facebook first to use a partner’s messaging feature,” Konstantinos Papamiltiadis, director of developer platforms and programs at Facebook, wrote in the blog post. “Take Spotify for example. After signing in to your Facebook account in Spotify’s desktop app, you could then send and receive messages without ever leaving the app. Our API provided partners with access to the person’s messages in order to power this type of feature.” Facebook did not play fast and loose with peoples data or abuse their privacy. They don’t sell or give away user data.
        • Dylan16807 8y ago
          So all they had to do was sign in, and those programs got access to private messages. What are you trying to refute, exactly?
          • simplecomplex 8y ago
            I'm refuting that they gave away user data, which is factually false. Here's Facebook's explanation: https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/12/facebooks-messaging-partnerships/ https://newsroom.fb.com/news/2018/12/facebooks-messaging-par... "In order for you to write a message to a Facebook friend from within Spotify, for instance, we needed to give Spotify “write access.” For you to be able to read messages back, we needed Spotify to have “read access.” “Delete access” meant that if you deleted a message from within Spotify, it would also delete from Facebook. No third party was reading your private messages, or writing messages to your friends without your permission. Many news stories imply we were shipping over private messages to partners, which is not correct." It's become clear from engaging in this discussion that people aren't interested in facts or context, but have a chip on their shoulder about Facebook. Others have also been misinformed by inaccurate news stories. I don't even use Facebook, yet it's pretty easy to understand the facts if you're actually interested in them.