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Serious question: Do you trust the government to "efficiently allocate resources"?

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yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
Which government? Your government? That sounds like your problem and your responsibility. And mine too! “The government” is ours and our responsibility to maintain. You appear to be assuming everybody wants to abandon that responsibility as much as you do. Wake up! Why it gotten so trashed is beyond me, but I am young and myself and my circle are doing everything in our might to repair the state of our community because others disowned it in the past. I find what they did to be shameful, but I don’t want them to feel shame. I just want them to start taking responsibility instead of pretending like their government is some foreign entity. It isn’t. It didn’t have to get this bad, and it won’t get better by sitting around and talking this nonsense.
alasdair_ 8y ago
I think that single payer will more efficiently allocate resources than the current system. I think this based on the fact that the countries that have single payer healthcare manage to produce the same or better health outcomes for a fraction of the cost of the us. Part if the issue is that the incentives in the US today encourage the poorest people to get health care at the most expensive places (emergency rooms), as well as the insane amount of wasted effort coordinating insurance providers, billing people, verifying copay amounts etc.
- creaghpatr 8y ago
  >I think that single payer will more efficiently allocate resources than the current system. I do agree with this.
- rijoja 8y ago
  How do you know that this is not due to government interface, I read somewhere that the non-subsided plastic surgery industry saw less increase in prices for consumers. Bear in mind that waiting times in socialist countries are way longer and also if you don't agree with the treatment that has been decided for there is nowhere to go. If you are looking towards the Swedish model for an example keep in mind that the direction there has been increased privatization.
dsfyu404ed 8y ago
>Serious question: Do you trust the government to "efficiently allocate resources"? Not really. But I trust them to fuck it up in a way that sucks less than the status quo and when they fuck it up we have more recourse than we do with the status quo. It's the classic choice between the devil you know an the devil you don't except that most other countries have chosen a different devil than we have and are doing better for it so I think it's worth a shot.
DanBC 8y ago
Yes. I trust the government more than I trust insurance companies.
pnutjam 8y ago
Depends, are we electing Republicans?

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Which government? Your government? That sounds like your problem and your responsibility. And mine too! “The government” is ours and our responsibility to maintain. You appear to be assuming everybody wants to abandon that responsibility as much as you do. Wake up! Why it gotten so trashed is beyond me, but I am young and myself and my circle are doing everything in our might to repair the state of our community because others disowned it in the past. I find what they did to be shameful, but I don’t want them to feel shame. I just want them to start taking responsibility instead of pretending like their government is some foreign entity. It isn’t. It didn’t have to get this bad, and it won’t get better by sitting around and talking this nonsense.

alasdair_ 8y ago

I think that single payer will more efficiently allocate resources than the current system. I think this based on the fact that the countries that have single payer healthcare manage to produce the same or better health outcomes for a fraction of the cost of the us. Part if the issue is that the incentives in the US today encourage the poorest people to get health care at the most expensive places (emergency rooms), as well as the insane amount of wasted effort coordinating insurance providers, billing people, verifying copay amounts etc.

creaghpatr 8y ago
>I think that single payer will more efficiently allocate resources than the current system. I do agree with this.
rijoja 8y ago
How do you know that this is not due to government interface, I read somewhere that the non-subsided plastic surgery industry saw less increase in prices for consumers. Bear in mind that waiting times in socialist countries are way longer and also if you don't agree with the treatment that has been decided for there is nowhere to go. If you are looking towards the Swedish model for an example keep in mind that the direction there has been increased privatization.

dsfyu404ed 8y ago

>Serious question: Do you trust the government to "efficiently allocate resources"? Not really. But I trust them to fuck it up in a way that sucks less than the status quo and when they fuck it up we have more recourse than we do with the status quo. It's the classic choice between the devil you know an the devil you don't except that most other countries have chosen a different devil than we have and are doing better for it so I think it's worth a shot.

DanBC 8y ago

Yes. I trust the government more than I trust insurance companies.

pnutjam 8y ago

Depends, are we electing Republicans?