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Drinking Water Before Meals Aids Weight Loss
- jeromec 16y agoI was having a debate with my brother about when salad should be eaten, before or after a meal. I said it would make a difference. He said it made no difference. (Americans seem to be in the minority for eating salad before meals) Some light research on the Internet was not completely conclusive, but it appeared there is not much difference. However, since salad digests slower it's generally considered better to eat it after a meal. On the other hand, eating salad before a meal can make a person feel fuller, so that they eat less. It may be a good combination to both eat a salad and drink water before meals. However, one caveat would be that water dilutes stomach acid, so it's probably not a good idea to drink a lot of water before meals.
- matwood 16y agoI said it would make a difference. He said it made no difference. Difference in what though? Satiety? Hunger? Weight loss? The underlying method for all weight loss is to eat fewer calories. How someone accomplishes that is up them and may come down to personal preference.
- sudont 16y agoA salad before a meal, particularity 20-30 minutes beforehand, will start the enzyme processes that eventually render satiety. However, most American salads are loaded with decidedly non-healthy items, so a 200-300 drop in meal calories would be offset by the salad itself. Better just eat them to increase vegetables, then. (No iceberg!)
- eitally 16y agoEating anything 20-30 minutes beforehand will do that. Even eating a meal more slowly will result in eating less due to feeling sated sooner. The first bullet point here is relevant: http://zenhabits.net/5-powerful-reasons-to-eat-slower/ http://zenhabits.net/5-powerful-reasons-to-eat-slower/
- arjn 16y agoOh Man! how I hate iceberg lettuce. Why does anyone like it at all ? Cucumber tastes way better.
- iuguy 16y agoIf you're relying on iceberg lettuce in your salad you're really doing it wrong. Have a look for some mediterranean salad recipes, try putting some cherry tomatoes in for sweetness, a light drizzle of olive oil and swap the lettuce out for rocket and see how it goes.
- giardini 16y agoLettuce, like most leafy greens used in salads, is mostly roughage. Iceberg lettuce isn't as tasty but otherwise is fine. And iceberg lettuce is cheaper. Lettuce, tomato, avocado slices, chopped green onions, and an anchovy or smoked oysters with vinaigrette is fantastic, regardless of what kind of green is used as the base.
- luckyland 16y agoEnter the Wedge
- jeromec 16y agoI wasn't thinking it would make a difference in weight loss necessarily, but thought it would be better one way or the other for digestion.
- carbocation 16y agoWater does not meaningfully Change the acidity of your gastric mucosal lining. Even antacids only do so temporarily.
- jeromec 16y agoReally? One of the things I read while checking into the salad timing was about Americans also drinking cool liquids before and during a meal, which was not really advisable for good digestion.
- carbocation 16y agoNone of that stuff matters at all from a biological standpoint. From a psychological standpoint, it's helpful to get water in first (fills you up a bit, adds 0 calories). Same with a salad (fills you up a bit, adds few calories).
- jeromec 16y agoAccording to Google answers you're right: Is it okay to drink water during meals? This is interesting as a lot of complementary practitioners recommend against drinking water with meals, believing it dilutes the stomach acid and, hence, interferes with proper digestion. Technically this is not true, Dr. B says, as the water probably doesn't significantly mix with digestive juices. So for the record it's only people who are having problems making enough stomach (hydrochloric) acid who need to worry about this.
- smtf 16y agoI've been told that the 'cool' part is significant. In so far as temperature of your stomach is a factor for good digestion. I'm not sure to what degree that is true but gulping down an icy beverage can't help.
- carbocation 16y agoThe cool part is not significant, as thermodynamics will ensure prompt temperature equilibration. Relative to an ice-cold jug of water, your body is a nearly infinite heat source.
- xentronium 16y ago> Americans seem to be in the minority for eating salad before meals I always believed that's the only way it's eaten by etiquette (after appetizer and before the main course).
- jeromec 16y agoEtiquette for whom though? The English? Apparently the French eat salad after meals. I found an interesting link concerning this about dinners at the White House. (http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/599224 http://chowhound.chow.com/topics/599224) Looking at this photo of the menu from the White House National Governors Association dinner, it looks like the salad course follows the main course, as is common in Europe. At the risk of sounding like a hick, is this arrangement of courses standard for formal dinners in the U.S.? (looks yummy, btw). http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2b_SPCr78uQ/SaMrIOb1FzI/AAAAAAAAHug/xGpYKCiXyIY/s1600-h/menudessertxfeb222009.jpg* http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_2b_SPCr78uQ/SaMrIOb1FzI/AAAAAAAAHu...
- jules 16y ago> Americans seem to be in the minority for eating salad before meals Nope, it's like that in most (all?) places in Europe I've visited too (certainly in restaurants).
- maneesh 16y agoitalians eat it at the end of a meal
- loewenskind 16y agoI think this actually depends on the situation. If you eat in a restaurant you'll probably get salad first because there is no cooking time involved. If you eat at a Europeans house you'll probably eat the main course first because you all eat together and you don't want the hot stuff to get cold. I think how it's done has to do with practicality, not any insight on good eating practice.
- xtho 16y ago> eat at a Europeans house I like the notion but do you actually think that it makes no difference whether you are in Italy, France, Germany, Finland, Poland, or the UK?
- loewenskind 16y agoI haven't eating at someone's home from each of these places, but honestly yes. I really think it's a logistics question. If you eat at someone's house the choices are: * All eat Salad together and then guests wait while the person doing the cooking prepares the main course * Guests eat Salad while the cook prepares the main course (and misses the Salad) * Everything is put on the table at once and everyone eats together. Salad will be eaten last because it wont get any colder just sitting there. For me the last option is the only practical one and I can't imagine any tradition being strong enough to make people willing to endure cold steak, schnitzel or whatever.
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- rdzah 16y agoTo lose weight, first we burn some fat: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_oxidation http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beta_oxidation "...Hydration: The next step is the hydration of the bond between C-2 and C-3." enoyl CoA hydratase <--H2O--> L-β-hydroxyacyl CoA
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- topherjaynes 16y agoMake sure you read the line in the article that says " drinking water 30 minutes before a meal reduced calorie intake and feelings of hunger in older adults, but had little effect on subjects under 35." I imagine most of the people reading this article via HN are less than the age of 55--the original age group the study looked at.
- hackermom 16y agoWater prior to dining does not affect your metabolism in any way what so ever - dire tabloid-style allusion error here. The article points out the obvious: if you feel less hungry (read: a bit fuller) before eating, as you would by filling your stomach with water, you might eat less of the food. Duh.
- qeorge 16y agoThere is no mention of metabolism anywhere in this article. Not sure where you got that. 3rd sentence: "Dieters have been encouraged to employ this trick for ages, with the reasoning quite simple: the water fills the stomach, thus reducing hunger."
- hackermom 16y agoExactly - that was the grave allusion error thrown about in the article. I'm sure you're familiar with the term. And as pointed out, it is just a trick; not a sure-shot. Something interesting to reflect on: Why is this topic always such an incredibly sensitive sore spot to HN commons, taking on the form of stigma everytime it's brought up? It's like commenting on it instantly means stepping on a nerve - or possibly the protruding underbelly of someone lacking self-esteem.
- chachacha 16y agoYou dilute the enzymes in your stomach, making them less effective. This is a good way to get fetid gas in your lower intestine and colon.
- rick_2047 16y agoEveryone talks about weight loss. What about weight gain? I a skinny boy and would like to have tips on weight gain rather than loss. But considering obesity is an epidemic and weight loss (even if you are underweight) a rage, such tips are hard to find.
- varaon 16y agohttp://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/Fitness#WeightGain http://www.reddit.com/help/faqs/Fitness#WeightGain In addition: -Figure out your current calorie intake using http://www.fitday.com/ http://www.fitday.com/ You may be undereating and be unaware of it.
- alexyoung 16y agoThis sounds like the Shangri-La Diet: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Shangri-La_Diet
- ZeroGravitas 16y agoThat's quite a different hypothesis, involving tasteless calories taken well spaced in time from anything with a flavor or taste resetting your appetite. This is just about adding calorie-free bulk directly before meals to trigger "fullness".
- konad 16y agoSeth Roberts reported on this a long time ago, though he added a bit of fructose to his water http://www.sethroberts.net/about/whatmakesfoodfattening.pdf http://www.sethroberts.net/about/whatmakesfoodfattening.pdf A farmers know, taking water with your meals increases calorie uptake too.
- dalore 16y agoWhy would taking water with your meals increase calorie uptake? I would think it would reduce it, since it takes up space in the stomach. Also the effect it has on quenching your thirst so you don't reach for a soda instead.
- konad 16y agoThe theory is that liquidising your food means more chemical reaction can take place. I don't have soda in reach. One 330ml can of soda a day is 5kg of weight gain per year to work off.
- konad 16y agoSeth Roberts reported on this a long time ago, though he added a bit of fructose to his water http://www.sethroberts.net/about/whatmakesfoodfattening.pdf http://www.sethroberts.net/about/whatmakesfoodfattening.pdf A farmers know, taking water with your meals increases calorie uptake too.