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> Have you ever been around kids? They're really a pain in the ass, especially if they're boys. Suck it up. What, do you want having kids to be as seamless as

> Have you ever been around kids? They're really a pain in the ass, especially if they're boys. Suck it up. What, do you want having kids to be as seamless as an Uber Eats order? It's not. It's hard work. I'm sure your parents gave up on a lot to have you, too. That's part of being an adult.

IC4RUS 8y ago
They're not saying they want it to be easy, they're saying they don't want to do it and don't have to (which ties into the rest of what they're saying) I think you're missing the point of the comment.
magduf 8y ago
>That's part of being an adult. As countless adults these days have proven, no, it's not. You can just opt out of the whole thing.
- martin1b 8y ago
  Which is why we have the problem at hand.
  - auiya 8y ago
    > problem at hand Is it a problem? I would submit it is a solution.
    - magduf 8y ago
      It's a problem if you don't want your economy to collapse because of too many elderly people who can't work and not enough young people to keep things going for them all.
- jdbernard 8y ago
  Yep. And if everyone does...
GrinningFool 8y ago
> Suck it up. What, do you want having kids to be as seamless as an Uber Eats order? It's not. It's hard work. I'm sure your parents gave up on a lot to have you, too. That's part of being an adult. Seems wiser to remain childless than to have and raise kids that you never wanted. How would that work out for the kid, otherwise? Or are we going on the assumption that once the kid is born, OP will no longer see it as a burden?
- stephenhuey 8y ago
  There's something to be said for that. My kids do require a lot of attention and work and I sometimes I feel very tired out and short on time to get things done before crawling into bed for enough sleep to be productive at the office the next day. However, even though I really enjoy creative technology work at my job, on average my relationships with my kids give me greater satisfaction than any projects I work on. Maybe not everyone would feel the same way after having kids, but for a lot of us parents I think it's a natural thing that occurs within us that's very helpful for motivating one to give love and care towards a child amidst myriad other demands. I've heard many other parents confirm that they feel something they had never felt before, and that definitely pushes us through the tough times when parenting and provides a lot of enjoyment that might have been difficult to imagine beforehand.
  - magduf 8y ago
    I have a good friend whose mother tells her that she (my friend) ruined her life, and that she never really wanted kids or to get married to the man she married when she got pregnant.
    - masonic 8y ago
      In the TV series "Doc Martin", the main character comes from such parents.
handzbagz 8y ago
That's precisely why I don't want them. I don't feel it's worth the time and effort.
- simplecomplex 8y ago
  Who do you plan on taking care of you when you get older? You’re going to pay nurses, and maybe live in a retirement home?
  - est31 8y ago
    Alzheimers patients need 24/7 care. This isn't something that small families with 3-4 siblings can do by reasonable means next to having a job, raising the next generation, and living in the neighbouring town or even further than that. In the old days, poor people just died young because of exhaustion and rich people well they have the means for proper care per definition.
    - simplecomplex 8y ago
      In the event of Alzheimer’s, who do you think makes the decisions? Communicates with the nurses? Checks on them? Family. Not sure what your point about poor people is...
    - magduf 8y ago
      It's looking like Alzheimer's will be a solved problem before too long, with all the current research on it.
      - est31 8y ago
        There is indeed a lot of research on Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative diseases. But I'm a bit more sceptical than you. We still don't know exactly what's happening in Alzheimer patients. We might even split up the disease into multiple sub-diseases as it happened with cancer. However, you are right, a lot of stuff can happen before people who are young today (20s and younger) get old.
mzybert 8y ago
Why on earth would I "suck it up" when I can just never make any children?
babyloneleven 8y ago
> Suck it up. Why?
arwhatever 8y ago
> Suck it up. Why don't you suck up me not having any?

IC4RUS 8y ago

They're not saying they want it to be easy, they're saying they don't want to do it and don't have to (which ties into the rest of what they're saying) I think you're missing the point of the comment.

magduf 8y ago

>That's part of being an adult. As countless adults these days have proven, no, it's not. You can just opt out of the whole thing.

martin1b 8y ago
Which is why we have the problem at hand.
- auiya 8y ago
  > problem at hand Is it a problem? I would submit it is a solution.
  - magduf 8y ago
    It's a problem if you don't want your economy to collapse because of too many elderly people who can't work and not enough young people to keep things going for them all.
jdbernard 8y ago
Yep. And if everyone does...

GrinningFool 8y ago

> Suck it up. What, do you want having kids to be as seamless as an Uber Eats order? It's not. It's hard work. I'm sure your parents gave up on a lot to have you, too. That's part of being an adult. Seems wiser to remain childless than to have and raise kids that you never wanted. How would that work out for the kid, otherwise? Or are we going on the assumption that once the kid is born, OP will no longer see it as a burden?

stephenhuey 8y ago
There's something to be said for that. My kids do require a lot of attention and work and I sometimes I feel very tired out and short on time to get things done before crawling into bed for enough sleep to be productive at the office the next day. However, even though I really enjoy creative technology work at my job, on average my relationships with my kids give me greater satisfaction than any projects I work on. Maybe not everyone would feel the same way after having kids, but for a lot of us parents I think it's a natural thing that occurs within us that's very helpful for motivating one to give love and care towards a child amidst myriad other demands. I've heard many other parents confirm that they feel something they had never felt before, and that definitely pushes us through the tough times when parenting and provides a lot of enjoyment that might have been difficult to imagine beforehand.
- magduf 8y ago
  I have a good friend whose mother tells her that she (my friend) ruined her life, and that she never really wanted kids or to get married to the man she married when she got pregnant.
  - masonic 8y ago
    In the TV series "Doc Martin", the main character comes from such parents.

handzbagz 8y ago

That's precisely why I don't want them. I don't feel it's worth the time and effort.

simplecomplex 8y ago
Who do you plan on taking care of you when you get older? You’re going to pay nurses, and maybe live in a retirement home?
- est31 8y ago
  Alzheimers patients need 24/7 care. This isn't something that small families with 3-4 siblings can do by reasonable means next to having a job, raising the next generation, and living in the neighbouring town or even further than that. In the old days, poor people just died young because of exhaustion and rich people well they have the means for proper care per definition.
  - simplecomplex 8y ago
    In the event of Alzheimer’s, who do you think makes the decisions? Communicates with the nurses? Checks on them? Family. Not sure what your point about poor people is...
  - magduf 8y ago
    It's looking like Alzheimer's will be a solved problem before too long, with all the current research on it.
    - est31 8y ago
      There is indeed a lot of research on Alzheimer's disease and other neurodegenerative diseases. But I'm a bit more sceptical than you. We still don't know exactly what's happening in Alzheimer patients. We might even split up the disease into multiple sub-diseases as it happened with cancer. However, you are right, a lot of stuff can happen before people who are young today (20s and younger) get old.

mzybert 8y ago

Why on earth would I "suck it up" when I can just never make any children?

babyloneleven 8y ago

> Suck it up. Why?

arwhatever 8y ago

> Suck it up. Why don't you suck up me not having any?