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>>Men can get parental leave in European countries, so in this case your strategy is not working. Depends on the country. In mine women get much more time and

>>Men can get parental leave in European countries, so in this case your strategy is not working. Depends on the country. In mine women get much more time and men usually take none or just a few weeks at most. I think that's the case in most countries.

simion314 8y ago
I mean one of the parents not both, in my case (I am a man in Romania) my wife could not qualify at that time since she was at university/college and I benefited by the parental leave. The law does not discriminate by the parent gender, so if the man decides to stay at home with the child is fine.
erk__ 8y ago
Men do now have 2 months of parental leave, if they do not use that they lose it. This is per a new EU law from last year.
- GordonS 8y ago
  EU bloke here (well, for now, pending Brexit...) - do you have any more info on this? I think last time I took paternity leave it was only 2 weeks on full pay, and a further 2 weeks on half pay. Is the 2 months you mention on full pay?
  - dependsontheq 8y ago
    No it’s still decided on a country level, sounds like the German law.
  - erk__ 8y ago
    The directive is quite new, they first reached an agreement in janurary so it is not implemented yet. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/01/24/better-work-life-balance-for-eu-citizens-presidency-reaches-provisional-agreement-with-the-european-parliament/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019...
irrational 8y ago
I live in the USA and at my company (albeit a large one) both men and women get 6 months of paternity/maternity leave.
- simion314 8y ago
  Here in Romania 10 years ago you had the option to get up to 2 years of paternity (only 1 parent).
- woodpanel 8y ago
  In Germany you'll get up to three years right-of-return. The employer doesn't pay you a dime. First twelve months you get approx. 60% of your current income from the government (BTW the same coverage people get when unemployed). You can expand those twelve months into 24, halving the amount of what you're paid. You can also apply for additional support (e.g. there's a fixed amount per kid you'll get until it reaches adulthood). From the feedback I've gotten so far 3 years sounds bizarre to most people outside of Germany. It certainly sounds like something guaranteeing a manifestation of gender-pay-gap. But it is in my experience actually the women here, who mostly want those 3 years. And equally bizarre: how shocked many are to hear how fast mothers return to their jobs in say France or Switzerland.
  - bluecalm 8y ago
    I like what they do in Switzerland. 3 years is ridiculous for a small business, you often don't know you can survive the next year let alone plan for 3. It's the problem with laws in EU in general though. They are very often made for reality of big businesses hiring hundreds of people. The laws and regulations often make sense there but present a huge obstacle for small players.
    - simion314 8y ago
      If you pay the person well then that person will go back to work for the extra money(though some people are not into making more and more money).
  - 8y ago

simion314 8y ago

I mean one of the parents not both, in my case (I am a man in Romania) my wife could not qualify at that time since she was at university/college and I benefited by the parental leave. The law does not discriminate by the parent gender, so if the man decides to stay at home with the child is fine.

erk__ 8y ago

Men do now have 2 months of parental leave, if they do not use that they lose it. This is per a new EU law from last year.

GordonS 8y ago
EU bloke here (well, for now, pending Brexit...) - do you have any more info on this? I think last time I took paternity leave it was only 2 weeks on full pay, and a further 2 weeks on half pay. Is the 2 months you mention on full pay?
- dependsontheq 8y ago
  No it’s still decided on a country level, sounds like the German law.
- erk__ 8y ago
  The directive is quite new, they first reached an agreement in janurary so it is not implemented yet. https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019/01/24/better-work-life-balance-for-eu-citizens-presidency-reaches-provisional-agreement-with-the-european-parliament/ https://www.consilium.europa.eu/en/press/press-releases/2019...

irrational 8y ago

I live in the USA and at my company (albeit a large one) both men and women get 6 months of paternity/maternity leave.

simion314 8y ago
Here in Romania 10 years ago you had the option to get up to 2 years of paternity (only 1 parent).
woodpanel 8y ago
In Germany you'll get up to three years right-of-return. The employer doesn't pay you a dime. First twelve months you get approx. 60% of your current income from the government (BTW the same coverage people get when unemployed). You can expand those twelve months into 24, halving the amount of what you're paid. You can also apply for additional support (e.g. there's a fixed amount per kid you'll get until it reaches adulthood). From the feedback I've gotten so far 3 years sounds bizarre to most people outside of Germany. It certainly sounds like something guaranteeing a manifestation of gender-pay-gap. But it is in my experience actually the women here, who mostly want those 3 years. And equally bizarre: how shocked many are to hear how fast mothers return to their jobs in say France or Switzerland.
- bluecalm 8y ago
  I like what they do in Switzerland. 3 years is ridiculous for a small business, you often don't know you can survive the next year let alone plan for 3. It's the problem with laws in EU in general though. They are very often made for reality of big businesses hiring hundreds of people. The laws and regulations often make sense there but present a huge obstacle for small players.
  - simion314 8y ago
    If you pay the person well then that person will go back to work for the extra money(though some people are not into making more and more money).
- 8y ago