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>I will not risk hiring a young woman Not everyone wants or will have children.

bluecalm 8y ago
I am not allowed to ask though. That's the whole point: extended maternal leaves cause discrimination when hiring women. I would love to be able to hire on merits alone but if I am facing much higher risk of not being able to put my children in a good school when hiring a women then I won't do that. No amount of moral outrage is going to put someone's children above my own. If you want me to not discriminate then please make laws which remove incentives to do so.
- eropple 8y ago
  An equally effective way to remove that incentive is to break your business in half when you decide to avail yourself of it. It is unfortunate that we have, as a collection of societies, largely forgotten that the fictitious entity that is your company exists at and only at the sufferance of the society that decides it's a good idea to let it exist--and that we-the-society can demand that you play ball with the society that grants you your charter.
  - bluecalm 8y ago
    I am playing ball. I am working 10-12 hours a day. I don't take any benefits when I am sick. I am paying huge amount in taxes while almost not using very little infrastructure my country provides. It's of great benefit for people of my country to have me doing business here and yet the laws are such that my choices are either to be sexist when hiring, sacrifice my family well-being or not hire at all. I am currently doing the 3rd options because "the society demands". They get less in taxes and someone misses on a really good job. If I need anything I just hire contractors, usually living abroad so I don't have to deal with the nonsense. Great deal the demanding society got, truly.
    - pertymcpert 8y ago
      Maybe just pack it in if it's not succeeding that you can't accept maternity leave? How long have you been doing this?
  - lliamander 8y ago
    It's much easier to destroy than to create. "Many that live, deserve death. Some that die, deserve life. Can you give that to them?"
- otoburb 8y ago
  >If you want me to not discriminate then please make laws which remove incentives to do so. I guess the question for small business owners to help answer: what laws would make this work? Gender-neutral parental leave seems to be the best (least-worst?) option that governments have been able to implement so far.
  - bluecalm 8y ago
    State sponsored basic income like support for pregnant women and more support for parents. Tying benefits to your job and salary results in discrimination of women when hiring, women postponing motherhood and employers eating the risk of women looking for a job just to get pregnant and get benefits.

I am not allowed to ask though. That's the whole point: extended maternal leaves cause discrimination when hiring women. I would love to be able to hire on merits alone but if I am facing much higher risk of not being able to put my children in a good school when hiring a women then I won't do that. No amount of moral outrage is going to put someone's children above my own. If you want me to not discriminate then please make laws which remove incentives to do so.

eropple 8y ago
An equally effective way to remove that incentive is to break your business in half when you decide to avail yourself of it. It is unfortunate that we have, as a collection of societies, largely forgotten that the fictitious entity that is your company exists at and only at the sufferance of the society that decides it's a good idea to let it exist--and that we-the-society can demand that you play ball with the society that grants you your charter.
- bluecalm 8y ago
  I am playing ball. I am working 10-12 hours a day. I don't take any benefits when I am sick. I am paying huge amount in taxes while almost not using very little infrastructure my country provides. It's of great benefit for people of my country to have me doing business here and yet the laws are such that my choices are either to be sexist when hiring, sacrifice my family well-being or not hire at all. I am currently doing the 3rd options because "the society demands". They get less in taxes and someone misses on a really good job. If I need anything I just hire contractors, usually living abroad so I don't have to deal with the nonsense. Great deal the demanding society got, truly.
  - pertymcpert 8y ago
    Maybe just pack it in if it's not succeeding that you can't accept maternity leave? How long have you been doing this?
- lliamander 8y ago
  It's much easier to destroy than to create. "Many that live, deserve death. Some that die, deserve life. Can you give that to them?"
otoburb 8y ago
>If you want me to not discriminate then please make laws which remove incentives to do so. I guess the question for small business owners to help answer: what laws would make this work? Gender-neutral parental leave seems to be the best (least-worst?) option that governments have been able to implement so far.
- bluecalm 8y ago
  State sponsored basic income like support for pregnant women and more support for parents. Tying benefits to your job and salary results in discrimination of women when hiring, women postponing motherhood and employers eating the risk of women looking for a job just to get pregnant and get benefits.