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It’s funny, the web app used to be really good. Much better than the native app. Since then they have been making the web app increasingly worse over time, acti

It’s funny, the web app used to be really good. Much better than the native app. Since then they have been making the web app increasingly worse over time, actively degrading its functionality and pleasantness to use.

rjbwork 8y ago
You can just permanently set your account to use the old layout/view. I've noticed little to no changes other than user profiles, which are the "old new" ones. On my phone I use reddit is fun. I have no issues at all with reddit atm in terms of them fucking with my experience.
- lostlogin 8y ago
  I agree, but it’s jarring going between devices (phone, iPad and computer) and the multiple interfaces. Then the repeated niggling to use the app. If I haven’t after several years, the chances are I don’t want to.
  - rjbwork 8y ago
    I am never nagged. I use RES on desktop to modify a few things, among others a dark theme. I use the RIF dark theme. Works pretty similarly.
- TylerE 8y ago
  "permenantly", except for the bug where about 1 pageview in 10 it still redirects you to new reddit. I think it's something related to improperly configured (server-side) caching or something.
  - rjbwork 8y ago
    I've never seen that happen. I only see it when I'm logged out on computer.
    - twothumbsup 8y ago
      It happens to me frequently. Sometimes they just log me out for no reason.
      - twelvechairs 8y ago
        Its been an accepted 'bug' for a long time but they never seem to properly be able to fix it https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/adxv7b https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/adxv7b
  - zaarn 8y ago
    I just use one of the many addons that redirect you to old.reddit.com.
- WalterSear 8y ago
  "permanently" for Conde Naste defined values of permanence. Legacy mode will be phased out as soon as it has served their purpose of smoothing over the transition. Or, it will be allowed to die of neglect, slowly becoming less and less compatible with the site until fully unusable.
  - rjbwork 8y ago
    And that's fine. I absolutely can't stand the new layout, so if that happens I'll stop using it. Probably not good for their metrics for a 13 year user of the service to stop using it I'd guess. I don't even block ads on it. And I sometimes click them if they're relevant (which, lets face it, they are these days).
    - noir_lord 8y ago
      11 for me and what used to be 30-60 minutes a day (I like certain subreddits /r/programming /r/chess /r/<proglang> Etc.) is maybe 15 and not at all for days now. I miss old reddit, nothing else really fills the niche in a unified way.
      - incongruity 8y ago
        So where do you go instead? Reddit and Facebook both have some hold for me because of niche communities that they both let me aggregate/monitor/interact with easily, without going to a myriad of websites. I really don’t want to have to do that - in some cases, I’m not even sure I can find comparable replacements.
        noir_lord 8y ago
        I fill that time by deliberately picking tech talks in a domain/language I know nothing about and watching them instead. It is interesting because it's related to what I do but different enough to be fascinating.
        RickSanchez2600 8y ago
- code_duck 8y ago
  There are many situations where you are presented with the mobile or new desktop designs, such as being logged out. I have to sign in at least twice every time to use the old desktop version.
- JohnJamesRambo 8y ago
  But for how long is the question. Once they remove that, my use will go way down or maybe stop entirely. I despise the new layout and it isn’t just a “doesn’t want to try something new” phase.
epistasis 8y ago
The degradation seems to directly correlate with the modern-feel of the page. I'm not sure if that's intentional. It seems that modern front end fashion is a huge step backwards from earlier fashions in web development.
- saagarjha 8y ago
  It's completely possible to have a "modern" page that is also nice to use; it's just that with Reddit modernness and horribleness have been conflated together and it seems like they go together.
  - cco 8y ago
    Can you cite a few? I'm generally of the same opinion to the comment you replied to but I'm always happy to be wrong.
    - Uupis 8y ago
      I don't know what exactly "modern" means here, but I think FastMail, Inoreader, and GitHub should count. All three have been fast and responsive. In particular, switching from Gmail to FastMail was a revelation. Random aside: I've long been very down on web tech, but those 3 have sort of reinvigorated my interest in web stuff.
  - rsynnott 8y ago
    Do you have any examples of this? Every 'modern' webapp I can think of has been an exercise in making it slower and more confusing than its old-fashioned predecessor. Especially slower. They're _so_ slow.
- WalterSear 8y ago
  They are building camouflage for advertising.
- andrepd 8y ago
  i.reddit.com. 2010 mobile app feel, blazing fast, light on resources. As it should be.
StellarTabi 8y ago
If you're interested in a web app (not downloaded). you could try Redusa. It's still early in development though. It's built in vuejs. https://github.com/redusa/redusa https://github.com/redusa/redusa
- IggleSniggle 8y ago
  Thank you for understanding my needs! I will check that out.
Ntrails 8y ago
I actually gave up and switched to desktop on my phone - which is barely usable at all - and yet still somehow less infuriating than the shitty mobile site...

rjbwork 8y ago

You can just permanently set your account to use the old layout/view. I've noticed little to no changes other than user profiles, which are the "old new" ones. On my phone I use reddit is fun. I have no issues at all with reddit atm in terms of them fucking with my experience.

lostlogin 8y ago
I agree, but it’s jarring going between devices (phone, iPad and computer) and the multiple interfaces. Then the repeated niggling to use the app. If I haven’t after several years, the chances are I don’t want to.
- rjbwork 8y ago
  I am never nagged. I use RES on desktop to modify a few things, among others a dark theme. I use the RIF dark theme. Works pretty similarly.
TylerE 8y ago
"permenantly", except for the bug where about 1 pageview in 10 it still redirects you to new reddit. I think it's something related to improperly configured (server-side) caching or something.
- rjbwork 8y ago
  I've never seen that happen. I only see it when I'm logged out on computer.
  - twothumbsup 8y ago
    It happens to me frequently. Sometimes they just log me out for no reason.
    - twelvechairs 8y ago
      Its been an accepted 'bug' for a long time but they never seem to properly be able to fix it https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/adxv7b https://www.reddit.com/r/redesign/comments/adxv7b
- zaarn 8y ago
  I just use one of the many addons that redirect you to old.reddit.com.
WalterSear 8y ago
"permanently" for Conde Naste defined values of permanence. Legacy mode will be phased out as soon as it has served their purpose of smoothing over the transition. Or, it will be allowed to die of neglect, slowly becoming less and less compatible with the site until fully unusable.
- rjbwork 8y ago
  And that's fine. I absolutely can't stand the new layout, so if that happens I'll stop using it. Probably not good for their metrics for a 13 year user of the service to stop using it I'd guess. I don't even block ads on it. And I sometimes click them if they're relevant (which, lets face it, they are these days).
  - noir_lord 8y ago
    11 for me and what used to be 30-60 minutes a day (I like certain subreddits /r/programming /r/chess /r/<proglang> Etc.) is maybe 15 and not at all for days now. I miss old reddit, nothing else really fills the niche in a unified way.
    - incongruity 8y ago
      So where do you go instead? Reddit and Facebook both have some hold for me because of niche communities that they both let me aggregate/monitor/interact with easily, without going to a myriad of websites. I really don’t want to have to do that - in some cases, I’m not even sure I can find comparable replacements.
      - noir_lord 8y ago
        I fill that time by deliberately picking tech talks in a domain/language I know nothing about and watching them instead. It is interesting because it's related to what I do but different enough to be fascinating.
      - RickSanchez2600 8y ago
code_duck 8y ago
There are many situations where you are presented with the mobile or new desktop designs, such as being logged out. I have to sign in at least twice every time to use the old desktop version.
JohnJamesRambo 8y ago
But for how long is the question. Once they remove that, my use will go way down or maybe stop entirely. I despise the new layout and it isn’t just a “doesn’t want to try something new” phase.

epistasis 8y ago

The degradation seems to directly correlate with the modern-feel of the page. I'm not sure if that's intentional. It seems that modern front end fashion is a huge step backwards from earlier fashions in web development.

saagarjha 8y ago
It's completely possible to have a "modern" page that is also nice to use; it's just that with Reddit modernness and horribleness have been conflated together and it seems like they go together.
- cco 8y ago
  Can you cite a few? I'm generally of the same opinion to the comment you replied to but I'm always happy to be wrong.
  - Uupis 8y ago
    I don't know what exactly "modern" means here, but I think FastMail, Inoreader, and GitHub should count. All three have been fast and responsive. In particular, switching from Gmail to FastMail was a revelation. Random aside: I've long been very down on web tech, but those 3 have sort of reinvigorated my interest in web stuff.
- rsynnott 8y ago
  Do you have any examples of this? Every 'modern' webapp I can think of has been an exercise in making it slower and more confusing than its old-fashioned predecessor. Especially slower. They're _so_ slow.
WalterSear 8y ago
They are building camouflage for advertising.
andrepd 8y ago
i.reddit.com. 2010 mobile app feel, blazing fast, light on resources. As it should be.

StellarTabi 8y ago

If you're interested in a web app (not downloaded). you could try Redusa. It's still early in development though. It's built in vuejs. https://github.com/redusa/redusa https://github.com/redusa/redusa

IggleSniggle 8y ago
Thank you for understanding my needs! I will check that out.

Ntrails 8y ago

I actually gave up and switched to desktop on my phone - which is barely usable at all - and yet still somehow less infuriating than the shitty mobile site...