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After 30 years the market is finally prime for a managed IRC service.
by edoo 8y ago
After 30 years the market is finally prime for a managed IRC service.
- kevin_thibedeau 8y ago$7B IRC. Much shinier than the old IRC.
- Groxx 8y agoIt handles images now!
- IshKebab 8y agoYou joke but it really is an indictment against decentralised protocols that IRC is still so primitive that it can't even handle images. No doubt someone will reply "that's not what it's for!"
- kevin_thibedeau 8y agoThat's an indictment against IRC. Anyone could have come up with an open protocol, IRC-killer but XML happened and we ended up with a morass of garbage.
- kinkrtyavimoodh 8y agoThat's an indictment against IRC, but I guess GP's point is that when it's everyone's business it often ends up being no-one's business
- IshKebab 8y agoManaged and modern. Seriously show me an IRC client that supports images, threads, emoji reactions (yes they really are useful), painless file transfers, etc. Hell IRC doesn't even let you browse history. How can you people not see that Slack is vastly superior to IRC (apart from the openness of course).
- hombre_fatal 8y agoI pay $50/year to irccloud.com just for some of those features. One major problem with IRC is that nobody else does. Just a few other nerds are running irssi on a VPS. It's hard to grow a community when everyone is offline as soon as they close their laptop. Compare that to all of the out of the box conveniences of Slack/Discord, there's no contest.
- freehunter 8y ago>everyone is offline as soon as they close their laptop That's the killer app for Slack. Not images or emoji or gifs or file transfer, that's just icing on the cake. The killer is that everyone is "online" even if they're offline. As long as your message isn't time sensitive, you can fire it off and when the person logs back in they will see it. Everyone who says Slack is just IRC is ignoring the fact that IRC doesn't allow you to chat with people who are offline. That's the game changer.
- Jordrok 8y ago> emoji reactions (yes they really are useful) Fun, sure, but useful? Ehh...I dunno. It seems like you have some specific use in mind and I'm curious, so if you don't mind me asking, what do you use them for?
- jononor 8y agoIn the Slacks I frequent they are often used for a ACK/+1 without creating the noise and interruption (from notifications) that a new message in a channel or thread would give. Also they can be used for quick votes. Github signal/noise has increased significantly from emoji reactions reducing all the 'me too' comments.
- bcbrown 8y agoAd-hoc polls, for one. Also useful for quietly acknowledging a message without sending a noisy notification. If I report an update to a supervisor during a production incident I'd rather get thank-you reaction then a reply that triggers a notification.
- baby 8y agoI've been a heavy user of IRC back in the days, I really don't want to use IRC anymore. It doesn't do much and all the clients suck. I think this really shows that federated protocols can really stagnate.
- paulryanrogers 8y agoXMPP worked well enough with a server or client that supported history. Supposedly Matrix is better though I'm too lazy to try and convince everyone I know to use it.
- kache_ 8y agoirssi works just fine. I wish slack was as little bloated as irc clients.