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It shouldn't seem similar to you. Incels and the hikkikomori phenomenon have very little, if anything to do with each other. From what I gather, incels are a gr
by claudiawerner 8y ago
It shouldn't seem similar to you. Incels and the hikkikomori phenomenon have very little, if anything to do with each other. From what I gather, incels are a group of people focused on believeing that they are owed sex or companionship in some way, and frequently a derisive attitude towards women who have had multiple partners or partners they regard as low quality etc.
I'm not sure where you get the idea that incels are shut-ins, or an American take on what is essentially the concept of shut-ins in Japan. While I'm sure some hikkikomori do harbor such opinions, I find no reason to think they essentially do, or that it tends to it. If anything, I'd say that the phenomenon is much more similar to MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way), which seeks to reject romantic involvement, at least with women. Again, even that is a stretch.
Where do you get the idea that incels tend to be anime fans? I have the idea that people with more time on their hands who face social rejection turn to media and worlds to the periphery, which anime and manga provide very well - whole worlds of immersive entertainment that's produced every day, huge fan communities to throw yourself into. This is why it might apply to hikkis and NEETs.
I'd also question the idea that hikkikomori are simply less angry incels, or something along those lines. Feeling rejected and a distaste for "3D", opting for the world of fantasy is actually almost the opposite of the incel phenomenon, which is very much focused on what they take to be real world causes to their real world problems.
- api 8y agoFrom what I've read and heard I've always seen them as partial shut ins or at least deeply alienated with friends online only. I think the deeper similarity that I see is "young men who feel completely rejected or without a place in the culture." My understanding of the superficial aspects may indeed be wrong.
- claudiawerner 8y agoThere's a lot of interesting cultural work going on with the phenomenon of otaku and their relationship to media in Japan, and some of it's inspiring for research in the West too. Patrick Galbraith explores the lolicon phenomenon, for instance. What gets to me most is when people treat them with derision or contempt or buzzwords to dismiss their problems, plight, and twisted as it may seem to us, way of life. I genuinely think that many hikkikomori or otaku have a more refined appreciation of the fictional world than those who must live day to day in the real world.