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Not to mention that germany did absolutely fucking nothing against VW when dieselgate happened. Still waiting to see Winterkorn & friends under the guillotine f

Not to mention that germany did absolutely fucking nothing against VW when dieselgate happened. Still waiting to see Winterkorn & friends under the guillotine for scamming the entire world. What happened instead? Normal engineers got blamed instead of executives. Fucking capitalism and fucking CDU, SPD and FDP. The sole reason for their existence is to sack money from lobbyists. When you have people like Schäuble, a piece of shit that was convicted for corruption in 1999, who was the minister of finance for the past couple of years in germany, it makes sense that germany does nothing against big corporate.

ahartmetz 8y ago
While it is true that Germany has legalized and not so legalized corruption in politics, it makes no sense to single out VW. All large companies have "government affairs" departments which sadly provide great return on investment. If only the people had a government affairs department...
- dbuder 8y ago
  dieselgate should have sunk the whole ship but they got a slap on the wrist, mean while the EU views apple/ms/google as a piggybank.
- ileri62 8y ago
  >it makes no sense to single out VW. merely giving an example that fits this thread (automotive).
sudosu- 8y ago
> When you have people like Schäuble, a piece of shit that was convicted for corruption in 1999 Do you have source on this?
- ileri62 8y ago
  The entire case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU_donations_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU_donations_scandal
  - sudosu- 8y ago
    And where does it say that he was convicted?
    - ileri62 8y ago
      oh right, even though he also lied to court they suspended the procecution. Good old democratic germany
- turbinerneiter 8y ago
  Schäuble is literally the worst. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble#/CDU_Party_Chairman,_1998%E2%80%932000 https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble#/CDU_Part... He failed to do anything about cum-cum/cum-ex. He came up with a tax on fuel for nuclear power plants, that I am convinced was deliberately designed to be in violation of the constitution, leading to a 7 billion tax-revenue loss. Not to speak of his views law and order and how the wrecked Greece because he doesn't understand economics.
  - ileri62 8y ago
    The greece part was nothing but blackmail anyway. Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions are worse off in greece just because schäuble. If greece were governed by a right wing party, I'm sure he'd have been most generous. Germany put pressure on them to get rid of the leftists.
  - sudosu- 8y ago
    I cannot find any source on his 'conviction'
eveningcoffee 8y ago
This is not surprising when you have corruption on the highest level and nothing happens about it - Schröder.
- ahartmetz 8y ago
  And Riester, who received a lot of money from the insurance industry.
Tomte 8y ago
> Not to mention that germany did absolutely fucking nothing against VW when dieselgate happened. VW (and Audi etc.) top executives are under criminal investigations. Their houses and offices have been searched multiple times. > Still waiting to see Winterkorn & friends under the guillotine for scamming the entire world. Sorry, we don't have capital punishment. And the guillotine is a bit too French for our taste, anyway (also, it was used by the GDR, so not a good role model).
solarkraft 8y ago
I don't think you're fully wrong, but you might be missing the massive economic interest we have in VW (and the rest of the pack) surviving.

ahartmetz 8y ago

While it is true that Germany has legalized and not so legalized corruption in politics, it makes no sense to single out VW. All large companies have "government affairs" departments which sadly provide great return on investment. If only the people had a government affairs department...

dbuder 8y ago
dieselgate should have sunk the whole ship but they got a slap on the wrist, mean while the EU views apple/ms/google as a piggybank.
ileri62 8y ago
>it makes no sense to single out VW. merely giving an example that fits this thread (automotive).

sudosu- 8y ago

> When you have people like Schäuble, a piece of shit that was convicted for corruption in 1999 Do you have source on this?

ileri62 8y ago
The entire case: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU_donations_scandal https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CDU_donations_scandal
- sudosu- 8y ago
  And where does it say that he was convicted?
  - ileri62 8y ago
    oh right, even though he also lied to court they suspended the procecution. Good old democratic germany
turbinerneiter 8y ago
Schäuble is literally the worst. https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble#/CDU_Party_Chairman,_1998%E2%80%932000 https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Wolfgang_Sch%C3%A4uble#/CDU_Part... He failed to do anything about cum-cum/cum-ex. He came up with a tax on fuel for nuclear power plants, that I am convinced was deliberately designed to be in violation of the constitution, leading to a 7 billion tax-revenue loss. Not to speak of his views law and order and how the wrecked Greece because he doesn't understand economics.
- ileri62 8y ago
  The greece part was nothing but blackmail anyway. Hundreds of thousands, possibly millions are worse off in greece just because schäuble. If greece were governed by a right wing party, I'm sure he'd have been most generous. Germany put pressure on them to get rid of the leftists.
- sudosu- 8y ago
  I cannot find any source on his 'conviction'

eveningcoffee 8y ago

This is not surprising when you have corruption on the highest level and nothing happens about it - Schröder.

ahartmetz 8y ago
And Riester, who received a lot of money from the insurance industry.

Tomte 8y ago

> Not to mention that germany did absolutely fucking nothing against VW when dieselgate happened. VW (and Audi etc.) top executives are under criminal investigations. Their houses and offices have been searched multiple times. > Still waiting to see Winterkorn & friends under the guillotine for scamming the entire world. Sorry, we don't have capital punishment. And the guillotine is a bit too French for our taste, anyway (also, it was used by the GDR, so not a good role model).

solarkraft 8y ago

I don't think you're fully wrong, but you might be missing the massive economic interest we have in VW (and the rest of the pack) surviving.