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You have every right to be less than impressed with the company and its business model(s), but dont make baseless claims.
by bitpush 8y ago
You have every right to be less than impressed with the company and its business model(s), but dont make baseless claims.
- randomsearch 8y agoI didn’t claim he was lying. I said it was an alternative conclusion. Perhaps to be more generous I should say “exaggerating” or “being selective.” Clearly his interests are aligned with higher stats. Therefore, it makes sense to corroborate those stats with independent data.
- johnfn 8y agoYour first sentence was “Or... Zuckerberg is lying.” That is a claim.
- dmos62 8y agoThe claim was that there's another explanation, not that there's only that other explanation. Why did everyone get their feathers in a bunch over Facebook's integrity?
- randomsearch 8y agoWasn't intended as one, but I see from discussion above that's a common way to imply that the alternative is true. My mistake.
- deelowe 8y ago> "Or... Zuckerberg is lying." > "I didn’t claim he was lying." Sure seems like you did...
- yesenadam 8y ago"A" "..or B" "You claimed B!" It seemed to me that he 'claimed' (if you want to use that term) that "A or B". I'm not sure what "A" was exactly, but he pretty clearly didnt just assert "B". Although sure, he did cast aspersions (or something), but he's hardly alone in doing that about his target. It would be novel to hear someone claim Zuckerberg is truthful, or say anything nice about the guy. The word "claim" was the problem here, I think. He may have suggested the possibility that Zuckerberg was lying, but claim that he was?! By what definition? "It's day..or night" "You claimed it's night!"
- mastazi 8y agoIn my opinion, it depends on GP's level of English language proficiency. If it is at least average, then he did make the claim. AFAIK "... or B" is a common idiomatic expression used to convey, in a sarcastic tone, the fact that the speaker disagrees with A, and considers B to be true.
- yesenadam 8y agoSure, but saying (or sarcastically hinting) that you believe B (that you 'consider B to be true') is still a different thing from saying ('claiming') that actually B.
- mastazi 8y agoOh OK I see what you mean, yes I agree with you then.
- randomsearch 8y agoThanks Mastazi, for pointing that out. I did make the mistake of intending what I wrote to be literal rather than implying something. My bad. But I see what you mean.
- AndrewKemendo 8y agoYour alternative "poisoned the well" [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well
- gammateam 8y agoCompanies restate earnings all the time, years after traders already made a profit :) It isnt a baseless claim to point out the infallability of a CEO or the broken incentive model to tout bad information or consciously lie