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"Sorry we got caught"

martin_bech 8y ago
“... again”
11sdmb8m 8y ago
Caught doing what? What they did was perfectly fine. Legal even under the GDPR, and people were being paid for it, which is the usual lament here ("nobody is paying me for my data"). Admit it, you just hate Facebook.
- LeoNatan25 8y ago
  They are using enterprise distribution against Apple EULA, sending software which was forbidden on the App Store.
- tssva 8y ago
  They were caught violating the terms of Apple's Developer Enterprise Program.
- gaius 8y ago
  Not if it involves minors without parental consent it isn’t.
- princekolt 8y ago
  Why do people defend large corporations so intensively?
  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    Because the dream is still to get a job at one of them, for better or worse.
- mrweasel 8y ago
  What Facebook, politicians, and many others fail to understand is that there's a difference between legal and morally right. Facebook makes it exceedingly easy for people to hate them, while technically doing nothing wrong. Well sometimes they break the law, but then Zuckerberg just says he's sorry and we all move on. It's getting tiresome to watch our industry behave recklessly in the pursuit of ad revenue and the push to collect more and more data about the unsuspecting public. I enjoy my work in IT, but companies like Facebook, and increasingly Google and Apple, then entire IoT business and a ton of startups are increasingly pushing me towards being less connected, less interested in new technology. It seems like a huge chunk of industry is misguided. I'm sick and tired of it.
  - 11sdmb8m 8y ago
    What you fail to understand is that the average layman doesn't care about data collection and ad tech. If it pisses you off that people don't care about the same things you do, welcome to politics.
    - mrweasel 8y ago
      What I care about are companies that simply have no moral compass. If no one at Google or Facebook think that they're pushing a little too hard to get ever more data about their users, then something is terribly wrong at those companies. Google is particularly fascinating, their employees protest when their parent company want to be a supplier to the US military, but apparently they have no moral objection to building detailed profiles on users (and non-users) in order to sell them more junk that they don't need and can't afford. The whole data collection thing is so abstract that the same people who don't want their employer to kill people with drone can't see the immorality of invading people privacy. If that's the case, then how can we expect the layman to understand or care?
      - 11sdmb8m 8y ago
        The agenda of those Google employees is to weaken the United States. They do that by working with ad tech (which, as you say, is build around increasing the gap between social classes and income inequality) and by sabotaging the military. There is nothing odd about what they do, once you understand that.
        7Z7 8y ago
        Funny you are accusing those employees of nefarious political motivations when you are pushing your politics up and down the thread (and others) in your sub-day-old anonymous account.
        11sdmb8m 8y ago
        I get banned every day, else my account would be like 10 years old, haha. I am not accusing them of "nefarious" political motivations, I respect their right to push their own politics. I wish they were more transparent, though.
time0ut 8y ago
It seems like we can't even go a week without Facebook getting caught doing something scummy. It makes you wonder what else they are doing. I assume the worst.

“... again”

Caught doing what? What they did was perfectly fine. Legal even under the GDPR, and people were being paid for it, which is the usual lament here ("nobody is paying me for my data"). Admit it, you just hate Facebook.

LeoNatan25 8y ago
They are using enterprise distribution against Apple EULA, sending software which was forbidden on the App Store.
tssva 8y ago
They were caught violating the terms of Apple's Developer Enterprise Program.
gaius 8y ago
Not if it involves minors without parental consent it isn’t.
princekolt 8y ago
Why do people defend large corporations so intensively?
- zapzupnz 8y ago
  Because the dream is still to get a job at one of them, for better or worse.
mrweasel 8y ago
What Facebook, politicians, and many others fail to understand is that there's a difference between legal and morally right. Facebook makes it exceedingly easy for people to hate them, while technically doing nothing wrong. Well sometimes they break the law, but then Zuckerberg just says he's sorry and we all move on. It's getting tiresome to watch our industry behave recklessly in the pursuit of ad revenue and the push to collect more and more data about the unsuspecting public. I enjoy my work in IT, but companies like Facebook, and increasingly Google and Apple, then entire IoT business and a ton of startups are increasingly pushing me towards being less connected, less interested in new technology. It seems like a huge chunk of industry is misguided. I'm sick and tired of it.
- 11sdmb8m 8y ago
  What you fail to understand is that the average layman doesn't care about data collection and ad tech. If it pisses you off that people don't care about the same things you do, welcome to politics.
  - mrweasel 8y ago
    What I care about are companies that simply have no moral compass. If no one at Google or Facebook think that they're pushing a little too hard to get ever more data about their users, then something is terribly wrong at those companies. Google is particularly fascinating, their employees protest when their parent company want to be a supplier to the US military, but apparently they have no moral objection to building detailed profiles on users (and non-users) in order to sell them more junk that they don't need and can't afford. The whole data collection thing is so abstract that the same people who don't want their employer to kill people with drone can't see the immorality of invading people privacy. If that's the case, then how can we expect the layman to understand or care?
    - 11sdmb8m 8y ago
      The agenda of those Google employees is to weaken the United States. They do that by working with ad tech (which, as you say, is build around increasing the gap between social classes and income inequality) and by sabotaging the military. There is nothing odd about what they do, once you understand that.
      - 7Z7 8y ago
        Funny you are accusing those employees of nefarious political motivations when you are pushing your politics up and down the thread (and others) in your sub-day-old anonymous account.
        11sdmb8m 8y ago
        I get banned every day, else my account would be like 10 years old, haha. I am not accusing them of "nefarious" political motivations, I respect their right to push their own politics. I wish they were more transparent, though.

time0ut 8y ago

It seems like we can't even go a week without Facebook getting caught doing something scummy. It makes you wonder what else they are doing. I assume the worst.