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I addressed that claim in my earlier comment. > The biggest argument against I've read was that the online drama took attention and resources away from the peo

I addressed that claim in my earlier comment. > The biggest argument against I've read was that the online drama took attention and resources away from the people in the cave. I find that absolutely absurd. The rescue team weren't checking their social media or waiting on Musk, or distracted in any way by the online drama. Has anyone in the cave said that some engineers on the other side of the world were holding them up or in some way impeding their efforts? I find it extremely hard to believe that some shitty twitter drama got in the way of cave rescue efforts.

Rebelgecko 8y ago
I believe one of the divers did. Then Musk accused him of having sex with children.
- Supermancho 8y ago
  That was not what happened. The tweet is here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-r... I thought it was obvious, that it was a clever dig at a guy he was fighting with (as much as idiots can fight on twitter, cough trump). Something about a guy with a hard on for getting to some kids. I'm sure Elon was high. I REALLY don't understand the HN brigade trying to imagine it into more than that. There's plenty of reason to go after some of Elon's money to keep the fame train going, but it wouldn't go anywhere in the US. In the UK? They are big on curbing particular kinds of speech and behavior. He has a good shot at getting the money. Edit: I am wrong, that's why.
  - detaro 8y ago
    From your link: > he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and "stop defending child rapists".
    - Supermancho 8y ago
      That's not an accusation (or defamation) either. Sheesh.
      - detaro 8y ago
        How is "stop defending child rapists" not suggesting the person is a child rapist, doubling down on the initial claim? (which was in bad taste, but wouldn't have been to big a deal if he'd not stuck by it)
        Supermancho 8y ago
        That's a circumstantial partial quote from an email, editorialized, that fits the narrative. That's how. I really don't understand how this is confusing. I mean, I'm willing to read the email where he makes an accusation, but you would think that would be helpful evidence in the case presented.
        detaro 8y ago
        well, then read it in context: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescuer-accusations-buzzfeed-email https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-thai-... The claims are quite specific.
  - Rebelgecko 8y ago
    Didn't Elon later tweet something along the lines of "He must be an actual pedo because he hasn't sued me for libel yet?" Can't say I blame the guy for suing after that. Some of the very specific things Musk said also seem a bit too specific for just joking around. "He’s an old, single white guy from England who’s been traveling to or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years, mostly Pattaya Beach, until moving to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time."

Rebelgecko 8y ago

I believe one of the divers did. Then Musk accused him of having sex with children.

Supermancho 8y ago
That was not what happened. The tweet is here: https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-rescuer-defamation-case-should-be-dismissed/10671066 https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-12-28/elon-musk-says-cave-r... I thought it was obvious, that it was a clever dig at a guy he was fighting with (as much as idiots can fight on twitter, cough trump). Something about a guy with a hard on for getting to some kids. I'm sure Elon was high. I REALLY don't understand the HN brigade trying to imagine it into more than that. There's plenty of reason to go after some of Elon's money to keep the fame train going, but it wouldn't go anywhere in the US. In the UK? They are big on curbing particular kinds of speech and behavior. He has a good shot at getting the money. Edit: I am wrong, that's why.
- detaro 8y ago
  From your link: > he later urged a BuzzFeed News reporter in an August 30 email to investigate Mr Unsworth and "stop defending child rapists".
  - Supermancho 8y ago
    That's not an accusation (or defamation) either. Sheesh.
    - detaro 8y ago
      How is "stop defending child rapists" not suggesting the person is a child rapist, doubling down on the initial claim? (which was in bad taste, but wouldn't have been to big a deal if he'd not stuck by it)
      - Supermancho 8y ago
        That's a circumstantial partial quote from an email, editorialized, that fits the narrative. That's how. I really don't understand how this is confusing. I mean, I'm willing to read the email where he makes an accusation, but you would think that would be helpful evidence in the case presented.
        detaro 8y ago
        well, then read it in context: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-thai-cave-rescuer-accusations-buzzfeed-email https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ryanmac/elon-musk-thai-... The claims are quite specific.
- Rebelgecko 8y ago
  Didn't Elon later tweet something along the lines of "He must be an actual pedo because he hasn't sued me for libel yet?" Can't say I blame the guy for suing after that. Some of the very specific things Musk said also seem a bit too specific for just joking around. "He’s an old, single white guy from England who’s been traveling to or living in Thailand for 30 to 40 years, mostly Pattaya Beach, until moving to Chiang Rai for a child bride who was about 12 years old at the time."