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I am the only person on Earth, I think, that has had 0 problems with Apple Maps (at least, in the past year). I have never aimed for Cleveland and ended up in t

I am the only person on Earth, I think, that has had 0 problems with Apple Maps (at least, in the past year). I have never aimed for Cleveland and ended up in the Atlantic; and I've never been late or gotten lost. I think I've disagreed with its shortcuts once or twice. Not denying your bad Apple Maps experience - just, I have no idea why mine is so trouble-free because so many have bad ones. (For calibration, I live in NoVA)

mereel 8y ago
Same for me and I've used Apple Maps all over the US. Although there have been instances of Google Maps finding something Apple Maps couldn't, I've never actually gotten wrong directions.
NikolaNovak 8y ago
You might be! Occasionally I'll rent a car that only has Apple's Car Play and have to use my work iPhone to navigate (gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play;). My experience has been universally poor: - it provides no instructions for major actual intersections. It thinks you're staying on same main road even when there's a confusing Y in front of the driver. I have constant moments of panic when I see the intersection coming and no help from the maps. - It provides confusing instructions on straight roads ("Turn right in 100 meters" when there's a stretch of straight road) - It'll reference names for a road that are nowhere near what any of the signs indicate - "Keep in right three lanes to stay on the road" - when the rightmost lane is actually a turning lane - Something that is admittedly tricky, it struggles to provide useful instructions on more than four-way roads (e.g. if it's a 5-way or 6-way, "Turn right" has multiple interpretations). It doesn't use, at least not in my cases "bear right" or "slight right" or similar vs "turn right" or "acute right" or "sharp right" - and again, it gets the road names wrong. - When Searching: * it'll show me Bedford England 5000km away, but not Bedford NS 12km away * It has some weird internal naming so searching for actual address will again not lead me anywhere near to what I want Basically it's been a constant source of frustration beyond what I believe could reasonably be attributed to my inexperience with its UI :-/ EDIT/UPDATE: Thx for feedback; my work phone is on iOS 11, good to know that (*recently, after 4 years without it) CarPlay now supports other maps; note that I don't think it in any way makes Apple Maps experience itself any better 0:-)
- lanewinfield 8y ago
  FYI CarPlay supports third party maps like Google as of September. https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/18/17875256/apple-ios-12-carplay-google-maps-waze-support-third-party-navigation https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/18/17875256/apple-ios-12-car...
  - NikolaNovak 8y ago
    Thanks! I heard that might be coming, I'll check if there's an update waiting on my work phone :)
- bikezen 8y ago
  Is there a UK restriction in place? In the US google maps (and waze) both work fine over carplay, map on the car screen and all.
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- cauthon 8y ago
  > Occasionally I'll rent a car that only has Apple's Car Play and have to use my work iPhone to navigate (gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play;). I don't own a car with Apple CarPlay, but a recent rental had it, and it worked perfectly with Google Maps.
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- mont 8y ago
  > gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play They do support third party navigation now https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay
  - ngokevin 8y ago
    Yup, Waze works as well and supports confirming and pinning reports.
irrational 8y ago
I'm not familiar with Nova. Is that short for Nova Scotia?
- writtenabode 8y ago
  Northern Virginia
- neurobashing 8y ago
  Northern Virginia/DC Suburbs and by extension, everything north of Quantico and north as far, as, I dunno, Gaithersburg in MD to the north. Some of the worst traffic in the country, and absolutely awful roads.
- matwood 8y ago
  Probably Northern Virginia.
jameane 8y ago
Apple was really slow to the party on transit directions. And it doesn't have biking directions. For me driving trips are less than 20% of my trips so not having both transit and biking is a deal breaker. I do like the parking spot rememberer though.
professorgerm 8y ago
How often do you miss a turn? Perhaps there's a setting I've missed, but for me Apple Maps seems to "lock" onto a particular route, and if I miss a direction it'll keep trying to get me back onto that route no matter how convoluted it would be, rather than updating to the new 'best route' like Google Maps usually manages. Other than that, which I recognize as partially user error, Apple Maps works at least as well as Google. If anything I like their routing better... so long as there's no unexpected issues.
svachalek 8y ago
I've never had any issues with it locally, and in fact I like it better than Google Maps in a lot of subtle little UX ways BUT I live less than 10 miles from Cupertino so it'd be crazy if they weren't really accurate here. I was in China a few weeks ago, where Google Maps is blocked, and was very impressed with the quality of the maps even in quite remote areas. Having access to reliable English/Pinyin maps in China is a new experience for me. On the other hand, in my travels to Mexico and even some rural parts of the US, I have seen a lack of detail in their maps compared to Google's. The Uber/Lyft app dependency on Google is surprising but probably shouldn't be. I wonder/hope it's different on iOS?
- teknologist 8y ago
  Apple Maps is the way to go in China, unless you read Chinese and can use one of the local apps. Apple have done a great job here.
ar_lan 8y ago
I used to have a lot of problems with Apple Maps, but they've gotten a lot better over the years. That said - there is a lot of feature parity that Apple Maps does not meet Google Maps on (i.e. - searching for something along your route is near impossible on Apple Maps, whereas that's a natural seamless integration on Google Maps). Additionally, and this might be just because I'm more used to Google Maps, but the UI is way easier to follow in Google Maps - it feels more natural and in-sync with my actual position as a driver. If I have to turn off an intersection, I sometimes feel like I'm guessing if it's the right exit with Apple Maps, but never have such confusion on Google's. Lastly - and this is also certainly anecdotal, but almost always Google Maps estimates are far more accurate for me than Apple Maps. Apple Maps has several times taken me a different route than Google Maps to my work, only for it to take another 5-10 minutes than normal. I've tried it several times and it just doesn't match up. Apple Maps sometimes feels closer to a burden to bear since I've chosen Apple for so much - I wish it worked as well dearly, since Apple tries to make you use it so often, but because of the experience I'm much more willing to copy an address and paste it myself into Google Maps than get that sweet integrated sensation I crave.
- mehrdadn 8y ago
  > If I have to turn off an intersection, I sometimes feel like I'm guessing if it's the right exit with Apple Maps, but never have such confusion on Google's. Happens to me on Google, but I don't have Apple to compare it with. But I definitely do miss or take the wrong turns because of this.
jki275 8y ago
Apple maps has taken me to the wrong side of Tokyo more than once. I won't use it anymore. I'm in Nova now, perhaps it's better here due to more data being available? I've never tried it here and probably won't -- there's nothing Waze won't do for me that Apple Maps will.
post_break 8y ago
I was in Dallas once, tried to get to the Dallas Zoo. Apple Maps couldn't get me there to save its life. I had to use Google Maps because Dallas decided to put exits inside of exits on the highway and Apple Maps would spit out the name of the second exit instead of what it was really called.
tradertef 8y ago
When we bought our newly built home in bay area 5 years ago, it took Apple maps 3 years to find it correctly. So many people went to wrong address as they did not follow my advise to use google maps. Apple maps auto-corrected the address to another place ~10 miles away. Other than that, I did not have much issues.
gumby 8y ago
I also find Apple Maps perfectly adequate for navigation around urban areas and some less urban areas as well, in USA and Europe. I found google maps better (but still not that great) in some more remote parts of Russia. The two companies have different approaches to businesses, landmarks. I find Apple much better for places I"m familiar with -- generally has the info I am looking for without as much noise. But when I'm a tourist in someplace unfamiliar I find google clearer so far.
- amaccuish 8y ago
  Did you try Yandex Maps for Russia?
  - gumby 8y ago
    Yes, and indeed they were generally better than the two American choices.
jesterson 8y ago
No, you're not. I travel a lot in Asia and never had any problems with Apple Maps. It's been my main navigation system for more than a year. The only complaint I might have is absence of certain venues/places that GoogleMap has, but this is something I can live with, putting privacy first.

mereel 8y ago

Same for me and I've used Apple Maps all over the US. Although there have been instances of Google Maps finding something Apple Maps couldn't, I've never actually gotten wrong directions.

NikolaNovak 8y ago

You might be! Occasionally I'll rent a car that only has Apple's Car Play and have to use my work iPhone to navigate (gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play;). My experience has been universally poor: - it provides no instructions for major actual intersections. It thinks you're staying on same main road even when there's a confusing Y in front of the driver. I have constant moments of panic when I see the intersection coming and no help from the maps. - It provides confusing instructions on straight roads ("Turn right in 100 meters" when there's a stretch of straight road) - It'll reference names for a road that are nowhere near what any of the signs indicate - "Keep in right three lanes to stay on the road" - when the rightmost lane is actually a turning lane - Something that is admittedly tricky, it struggles to provide useful instructions on more than four-way roads (e.g. if it's a 5-way or 6-way, "Turn right" has multiple interpretations). It doesn't use, at least not in my cases "bear right" or "slight right" or similar vs "turn right" or "acute right" or "sharp right" - and again, it gets the road names wrong. - When Searching: * it'll show me Bedford England 5000km away, but not Bedford NS 12km away * It has some weird internal naming so searching for actual address will again not lead me anywhere near to what I want Basically it's been a constant source of frustration beyond what I believe could reasonably be attributed to my inexperience with its UI :-/ EDIT/UPDATE: Thx for feedback; my work phone is on iOS 11, good to know that (*recently, after 4 years without it) CarPlay now supports other maps; note that I don't think it in any way makes Apple Maps experience itself any better 0:-)

lanewinfield 8y ago
FYI CarPlay supports third party maps like Google as of September. https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/18/17875256/apple-ios-12-carplay-google-maps-waze-support-third-party-navigation https://www.theverge.com/2018/9/18/17875256/apple-ios-12-car...
- NikolaNovak 8y ago
  Thanks! I heard that might be coming, I'll check if there's an update waiting on my work phone :)
bikezen 8y ago
Is there a UK restriction in place? In the US google maps (and waze) both work fine over carplay, map on the car screen and all.
- deleted 8y ago
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cauthon 8y ago
> Occasionally I'll rent a car that only has Apple's Car Play and have to use my work iPhone to navigate (gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play;). I don't own a car with Apple CarPlay, but a recent rental had it, and it worked perfectly with Google Maps.
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mont 8y ago
> gawd forbid Apple would let us use Google Maps on Car Play They do support third party navigation now https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay https://www.apple.com/ios/carplay
- ngokevin 8y ago
  Yup, Waze works as well and supports confirming and pinning reports.

irrational 8y ago

I'm not familiar with Nova. Is that short for Nova Scotia?

writtenabode 8y ago
Northern Virginia
neurobashing 8y ago
Northern Virginia/DC Suburbs and by extension, everything north of Quantico and north as far, as, I dunno, Gaithersburg in MD to the north. Some of the worst traffic in the country, and absolutely awful roads.
matwood 8y ago
Probably Northern Virginia.

jameane 8y ago

Apple was really slow to the party on transit directions. And it doesn't have biking directions. For me driving trips are less than 20% of my trips so not having both transit and biking is a deal breaker. I do like the parking spot rememberer though.

professorgerm 8y ago

How often do you miss a turn? Perhaps there's a setting I've missed, but for me Apple Maps seems to "lock" onto a particular route, and if I miss a direction it'll keep trying to get me back onto that route no matter how convoluted it would be, rather than updating to the new 'best route' like Google Maps usually manages. Other than that, which I recognize as partially user error, Apple Maps works at least as well as Google. If anything I like their routing better... so long as there's no unexpected issues.

svachalek 8y ago

I've never had any issues with it locally, and in fact I like it better than Google Maps in a lot of subtle little UX ways BUT I live less than 10 miles from Cupertino so it'd be crazy if they weren't really accurate here. I was in China a few weeks ago, where Google Maps is blocked, and was very impressed with the quality of the maps even in quite remote areas. Having access to reliable English/Pinyin maps in China is a new experience for me. On the other hand, in my travels to Mexico and even some rural parts of the US, I have seen a lack of detail in their maps compared to Google's. The Uber/Lyft app dependency on Google is surprising but probably shouldn't be. I wonder/hope it's different on iOS?

teknologist 8y ago
Apple Maps is the way to go in China, unless you read Chinese and can use one of the local apps. Apple have done a great job here.

ar_lan 8y ago

I used to have a lot of problems with Apple Maps, but they've gotten a lot better over the years. That said - there is a lot of feature parity that Apple Maps does not meet Google Maps on (i.e. - searching for something along your route is near impossible on Apple Maps, whereas that's a natural seamless integration on Google Maps). Additionally, and this might be just because I'm more used to Google Maps, but the UI is way easier to follow in Google Maps - it feels more natural and in-sync with my actual position as a driver. If I have to turn off an intersection, I sometimes feel like I'm guessing if it's the right exit with Apple Maps, but never have such confusion on Google's. Lastly - and this is also certainly anecdotal, but almost always Google Maps estimates are far more accurate for me than Apple Maps. Apple Maps has several times taken me a different route than Google Maps to my work, only for it to take another 5-10 minutes than normal. I've tried it several times and it just doesn't match up. Apple Maps sometimes feels closer to a burden to bear since I've chosen Apple for so much - I wish it worked as well dearly, since Apple tries to make you use it so often, but because of the experience I'm much more willing to copy an address and paste it myself into Google Maps than get that sweet integrated sensation I crave.

mehrdadn 8y ago
> If I have to turn off an intersection, I sometimes feel like I'm guessing if it's the right exit with Apple Maps, but never have such confusion on Google's. Happens to me on Google, but I don't have Apple to compare it with. But I definitely do miss or take the wrong turns because of this.

jki275 8y ago

Apple maps has taken me to the wrong side of Tokyo more than once. I won't use it anymore. I'm in Nova now, perhaps it's better here due to more data being available? I've never tried it here and probably won't -- there's nothing Waze won't do for me that Apple Maps will.

post_break 8y ago

I was in Dallas once, tried to get to the Dallas Zoo. Apple Maps couldn't get me there to save its life. I had to use Google Maps because Dallas decided to put exits inside of exits on the highway and Apple Maps would spit out the name of the second exit instead of what it was really called.

tradertef 8y ago

When we bought our newly built home in bay area 5 years ago, it took Apple maps 3 years to find it correctly. So many people went to wrong address as they did not follow my advise to use google maps. Apple maps auto-corrected the address to another place ~10 miles away. Other than that, I did not have much issues.

gumby 8y ago

I also find Apple Maps perfectly adequate for navigation around urban areas and some less urban areas as well, in USA and Europe. I found google maps better (but still not that great) in some more remote parts of Russia. The two companies have different approaches to businesses, landmarks. I find Apple much better for places I"m familiar with -- generally has the info I am looking for without as much noise. But when I'm a tourist in someplace unfamiliar I find google clearer so far.

amaccuish 8y ago
Did you try Yandex Maps for Russia?
- gumby 8y ago
  Yes, and indeed they were generally better than the two American choices.

jesterson 8y ago

No, you're not. I travel a lot in Asia and never had any problems with Apple Maps. It's been my main navigation system for more than a year. The only complaint I might have is absence of certain venues/places that GoogleMap has, but this is something I can live with, putting privacy first.