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Because not every employee was complicit in that....... And those that weren’t most definitely DO deserve their PTO. The problem is when you say “same people”

by jds375 8y ago

Because not every employee was complicit in that....... And those that weren’t most definitely DO deserve their PTO. The problem is when you say “same people” you’re just lumping everyone together and implying everyone at Buzzfeed news was trying to run articles that ruins a person’s life forever. That’s what you’re missing.

adventured 8y ago
> Because not every employee was complicit in that... Companies like Amazon frequently get skewered for a single sensational negative event at one of their warehouses. That one negative event is then extrapolated and taken to mean it's very common (thousands of their employees are forced to piss in bottles), with zero evidence to support that premise. Why should BuzzFeed and its employees not get to enjoy the media propaganda and sensationalism turned right back on them? I fail to see why they'd be immune to the same negativity they're helping to build up in the US culture. Working for any part of the BuzzFeed machine, they're all complicit in helping to cultivate numerous of the nightmare cultural problems eating at the US, including the entirely rotten state of the US media industry. BuzzFeed News helps to pay the bills for BuzzFeed and helps to keep the whole brand alive and kicking for another day to spew more garbage into the culture. They are in fact directly linked because of that. To use a crystal-clear, point-proving example: employees that help create bombs for the military industrial complex are not complicit at all in what those bombs are used for? For example, blowing up school buses. The countless employees that help support all of that and make it possible, are not complicit in any way? Obviously they are. Work for a corporation doing terrible things, you share responsibility for its output. Every part of BuzzFeed's organization assists the core BuzzFeed company. The only way that context would be dramatically or entirely reduced, is if they spun off BuzzFeed News, strictly separated it financially, ditched the brand and removed all BuzzFeed influence and control. As it is, they're all part of the same company.
- tomhoward 8y ago
  > Why should BuzzFeed and its employees not get Because we're meant to learn as children that that's a dangerous and counter-productive path to go down. If we're actually serious about expecting people to live up to the standards we're arguing for, we need to be willing to live up to them ourselves.
djohnston 8y ago
not all buzzfeed employees
- djohnston 8y ago
  it's funny you don't like this argument in the context of buzzfeed. when i made the same point to the thread-mob hating on facebook employees, no one shared my view that maybe not all employees of a company that has issues are responsible for those issues.

by jds375 8y ago

adventured 8y ago

> Because not every employee was complicit in that... Companies like Amazon frequently get skewered for a single sensational negative event at one of their warehouses. That one negative event is then extrapolated and taken to mean it's very common (thousands of their employees are forced to piss in bottles), with zero evidence to support that premise. Why should BuzzFeed and its employees not get to enjoy the media propaganda and sensationalism turned right back on them? I fail to see why they'd be immune to the same negativity they're helping to build up in the US culture. Working for any part of the BuzzFeed machine, they're all complicit in helping to cultivate numerous of the nightmare cultural problems eating at the US, including the entirely rotten state of the US media industry. BuzzFeed News helps to pay the bills for BuzzFeed and helps to keep the whole brand alive and kicking for another day to spew more garbage into the culture. They are in fact directly linked because of that. To use a crystal-clear, point-proving example: employees that help create bombs for the military industrial complex are not complicit at all in what those bombs are used for? For example, blowing up school buses. The countless employees that help support all of that and make it possible, are not complicit in any way? Obviously they are. Work for a corporation doing terrible things, you share responsibility for its output. Every part of BuzzFeed's organization assists the core BuzzFeed company. The only way that context would be dramatically or entirely reduced, is if they spun off BuzzFeed News, strictly separated it financially, ditched the brand and removed all BuzzFeed influence and control. As it is, they're all part of the same company.

tomhoward 8y ago
> Why should BuzzFeed and its employees not get Because we're meant to learn as children that that's a dangerous and counter-productive path to go down. If we're actually serious about expecting people to live up to the standards we're arguing for, we need to be willing to live up to them ourselves.

djohnston 8y ago

not all buzzfeed employees

djohnston 8y ago
it's funny you don't like this argument in the context of buzzfeed. when i made the same point to the thread-mob hating on facebook employees, no one shared my view that maybe not all employees of a company that has issues are responsible for those issues.