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I think what we're seeing is the culmination of a breakdown in the decades old neoliberal political consensus that Chinese nationalism could be gradually dispel
by stupidcar 8y ago
I think what we're seeing is the culmination of a breakdown in the decades old neoliberal political consensus that Chinese nationalism could be gradually dispelled through a policy of opening up Western economies to integration with China's. In practice, at the highest level, the Chinese government has kept the market subservient to nationalist goals, and remains stubbornly autocratic, repressive and hegemonistic.
The populist leanings of the Trump administration perhaps may make them more receptive to this argument, because they understand these kind of nationalist and hegemonistic instincts better than neoliberal technocrats, but I think this has been a dawning realisation throughout Western policymakers over the past decade. Even the Obama administration, which was strongly neoliberal, worked hard to isolate China economically through the TPP. Trump's disdain for trade deals killed that, but his confrontation of China is really just a noisier continuation of a pre-existing US foreign policy.
Big business might have put a restraint on Western policymakers' wishes to oppose China if they'd had more success in penetrating the Chinese market. But here the Chinese government has been too defensive, and Western business leaders have realised that they simply won't be allowed to be dominate in China in any meaningful way. Meanwhile, they have watched their infrastructure get attacked and their IP stolen, and have decided enough is enough.
- krsignklu 8y agoYour disdain for Trump is showing. Fact is, every president since Clinton has rolled over and avoided confrontation with China. TPP started in 2010, involved too many countries, and needed to be ratified by all in 2018 to go into effect. Trump installed a tariff in 1 year, and got multinationals to move out of China in 1 year.
- chii 8y agoAnd at what cost to the citizens? Will this action be the spark for war in the future?
- housepapass 8y agoUS has no reason to attack China. If China attacks US because US stopped giving China money, well, they should stop giving sooner rather than later
- javagram 8y ago> TPP started in 2010, involved too many countries, and needed to be ratified by all in 2018 to go into effect. When the USA withdrew from TPP the other members renamed it and went ahead and ratified it. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressive_Agreement_for_Trans-Pacific_Partnership https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressiv...
- gscott 8y agoAnd took out the worst parts that we put in that Trump/Bernie and eventually Clinton railed against.