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Much hand-wringing is being done by well-meaning moderates and centrists here, blaming both the President and Congress, wondering why our system allows for this
by plaidfuji 8y ago
Much hand-wringing is being done by well-meaning moderates and centrists here, blaming both the President and Congress, wondering why our system allows for this to happen, expressing solidarity with the furloughed workers. At least the right questions are being asked.
But the fact is that for this to end any time soon, the equivocating masses trying to stay on the sidelines, saying "oh those darned politicians...", are going to have to choose a side. The hardliners on both sides (the people who vote most often) view compromise as unacceptable, so their representatives are going to sit on their hands and vote down bill after bill.
The choice is not between building a wall or not - it is about whether we allow individual actors to use the functioning of the federal government as leverage in political negotiation. It would be the same if Democrats in the House said, "we won't pass a funding bill unless it includes universal healthcare. If you don't agree, you're shutting the government down." Absurd. Continuing government funding with no strings attached is an apolitical opinion, and it's time for centrists to speak up.
- fsdfsaf 8y ago> It would be the same if Democrats in the House said, "we won't pass a funding bill unless it includes universal healthcare. If you don't agree, you're shutting the government down." Absurd. That's exactly what happened 5 years ago.
- rootusrootus 8y agoPlease don't be dishonest here. In 2013 the GOP was trying very specifically to defund the ACA. The Democrats were pushing clean CRs. Again, it was the GOP trying to use a gov't shutdown to force the Democrats to agree to their wishes.
- rootusrootus 8y agoLet's be honest. Anybody talking "both sides" nonsense is right wing. True moderates and centrists are not at all with Trump on this particular issue. It goes well beyond the wall.