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It's cheap because they save on R&D via utilizing the Chinese military to hack into competitors and steal their R&D[0][1]. This reduces overhead costs to creati
by mabbo 8y ago
It's cheap because they save on R&D via utilizing the Chinese military to hack into competitors and steal their R&D[0][1]. This reduces overhead costs to creating new technology. It also gives the Chinese military an advantage, as they can now tell Huawei to put backdoors into all of their gear.
[0]https://www.afr.com/technology/web/security/how-chinese-hacking-felled-telecommunication-giant-nortel-20140526-iux6a https://www.afr.com/technology/web/security/how-chinese-hack...
[1]https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/former-nortel-exec-warns-against-working-with-huawei-1.1137006 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/former-nortel-exec-warns-ag...
- entity345 8y agoHuawei is among the world's top tech investors in R&D. In the top 3 to 5, I'd say. [0] https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-r-d/chinas-huawei-to-raise-annual-rd-budget-to-at-least-15-billion-idUSKBN1KG169 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-huawei-r-d/chinas-huawei-...
- bsder 8y agoThis does not preclude stealing IP, too. That is, of course, when the western companies don't just hand them the IP in order to get "entry into the worlds largest market." LOL. Huawei went so far when copying that they copied the bugs on certain Cisco gear. Yeah, they lost that one in court.
- entity345 8y agoAs long as we're clear that the noise around Huawei has nothing to do with any 'theft' but with the US feeling the heat and moving to protectionist tactics.
- tw04 8y ago>Huawei is among the world's top tech investors in R&D. In the top 3 to 5, I'd say. CLAIMS to be among the world's top tech investors. Literally nobody outside of the communist party has any idea what their true finances are. We've already got proof of that in the money going into and out of Iran which was unaccounted for.
- entity345 8y agoSure... All these R&D engineers and R&D centres the world over do not really exist. Their 5G leadership does not really exist. Trying too hard to badmouth them makes people look ridiculous.
- FiveSquared 8y agoSo it is the same as the US did a while back. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_espionage#United_...
- agumonkey 8y agoI forgot the details but Boeing also did state sponsored tricks to jail some European CEO (can't remember any more so far.. sorry)
- metalliqaz 8y agoOh well I guess it's okay then. US had legal slavery, should we let China go nuts with that one too?
- magduf 8y agoReductio ad absurdum. Slavery violates human rights. Industrial espionage does not, it only violates fictitious "intellectual property" rights.
- candiodari 8y agoAll rights are ficticious in that sense. Tell me, do you feel equally attached to your right to not have me steal, say, your phone ?
- xienze 8y ago> It's cheap because they save on R&D via utilizing the Chinese military to hack into competitors and steal their R&D I doubt there’s that much cloak-and-dagger involved. Every multinational company with offices in China or with Chinese nationals working in other countries are basically handing over their proprietary information voluntarily.
- throwaway-nok 8y agoIt is cheap because Huawei engineers works crazy overtime for free. Chinese engineers go work to Nokia after they are burn out after Huawei and want to have some life... Nokia & E/// have tons of sites across the world and don't act like labor camp.