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I have no idea what this product does. > Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac OK so like a URL to... what? Screenshare? Access the HDD like dropbox? Do s

by SCdF 8y ago

I have no idea what this product does. > Instantly create a secure URL to your Mac OK so like a URL to... what? Screenshare? Access the HDD like dropbox? Do something else? > Make changes in real time. Get feedback immediately. Effortless live previews. Of what? About what? Of what? > Nice cartoon picture of dog /closes tab Edit: reading the rest of the page it's still unclear what it does, or even why I'd want it. I guess I'm not the target audience?

gregoriol 8y ago
Exactly this! So much focus on dog drawings and no clear word on what the product does!
- whoiskevin 8y ago
  It was easy in one paragraph for me to tell what it does. Both the comments above seem like old people yelling "get off my lawn"
  - tyingq 8y ago
    Count me in with the old folks. I can't tell what this is. I read not only the home page, but the features and faq pages also. I can guess a bit, but it's still fuzzy.
scrumper 8y ago
I went through the entire FAQ to try to figure this out. Best I can tell, it's a port forwarder so you can serve content from a firewalled Mac over the public internet.
rwcorbett 8y ago
I had to look into the meta tags to get a better description: `<meta property="og:description" content="Effortless live publishing for web developers">` so I guess the target audience is developers who do not know how to configure a web server, setup proxies or other means of testing webhooks maybe? maybe there is a market for a product like this but obviously I would not be target audience either...
- wuliwong 8y ago
  I work for a small company and do lots of work that would be nice to just share with my boss through a service like this versus having to deploy. I think it's more for a testbed than a replacement for actual web servers.
  - kypro 8y ago
    Check out ngrok. It's absolutely brilliant for what you're describing.
    - wuliwong 8y ago
      I remember doing it before from my macbook. I'm not sure if that's a feature or not in os x anymore?
    - deleted 8y ago
      [deleted]
  - Deadron 8y ago
    SSH remote port forwarding is your friend. You just need an ssh server somewhere thats publicly accessible.
    - aynsof 8y ago
      Hence this service which would appear to be much easier than setting up a persistent remote ssh server with port forwarding.
    - is_your_friend 8y ago
      Pretty condescending.
youngdynasty 8y ago
Thanks for the feedback! I was indeed trying to explain something technical (i.e. a tunneling service) in a non-technical way in an attempt to be friendly towards designers, but it seems like I still have some work to do on the product page.
- perfmode 8y ago
  These people may not be your target audience. Your product page made sense to me and might also make sense if your customers are web and mobile web developers
- noxxten 8y ago
  Try describing the process, that's usually what I look for at least when I'm looking at products/services/apps (I'm a designer). Briefly walk through how you can create a folder, throw files in, forward a domain/port, and then it's public. The best product pages I've seen offer a short brief like your current site does, but then also offers the very detailed technical bits behind a "read more" button or accordion. Best of both worlds that way I think.
  - youngdynasty 8y ago
    Thanks for your suggestion! I was hoping to perhaps put together a short video to show it off in action (it really is quite simple). That said, it might actually be easier for me to use the "accordion" approach, as you suggested, My video editing skills are pretty limited and this is currently a side project of mine that's completely bootstrapped.
- ackfoo 8y ago
  I often hear people proudly say, “I’m not technical...” but this is an anachronism. We live in a technical world now. If you’re not technical, you’re a dinosaur and you might as well die off. There’s no point pandering to dinosaurs. The way you wrote your product page and app description is fascinating not because it was so oblique as to be completely meaningless, but because you appear to have been so thoroughly unaware of that fact. This is an extremely common problem with technical documentation. We find pages and pages of description of frameworks and libraries created without simply answering the fundamental question, “What does this do?” And those pages could be easily replaced with one brief annotated example. Technical people are often unaware that they have created a desert of meaning and substance.
mpweiher 8y ago
So maybe a replacement for the Back to My Mac feature that was removed (or is no longer supported) in Mojave? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_My_Mac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_My_Mac
thrownaway954 8y ago
yep... this is why programmers make _the worst_ marketers. they market like they code... they think everyone who comes to their site can read their minds so they forgot that they need explain clearly what their product does.
- kwhitefoot 8y ago
  > explain clearly what their product does Before they even do that they should explain what it is for!

by SCdF 8y ago

gregoriol 8y ago

Exactly this! So much focus on dog drawings and no clear word on what the product does!

whoiskevin 8y ago
It was easy in one paragraph for me to tell what it does. Both the comments above seem like old people yelling "get off my lawn"
- tyingq 8y ago
  Count me in with the old folks. I can't tell what this is. I read not only the home page, but the features and faq pages also. I can guess a bit, but it's still fuzzy.

scrumper 8y ago

I went through the entire FAQ to try to figure this out. Best I can tell, it's a port forwarder so you can serve content from a firewalled Mac over the public internet.

rwcorbett 8y ago

I had to look into the meta tags to get a better description: `<meta property="og:description" content="Effortless live publishing for web developers">` so I guess the target audience is developers who do not know how to configure a web server, setup proxies or other means of testing webhooks maybe? maybe there is a market for a product like this but obviously I would not be target audience either...

wuliwong 8y ago
I work for a small company and do lots of work that would be nice to just share with my boss through a service like this versus having to deploy. I think it's more for a testbed than a replacement for actual web servers.
- kypro 8y ago
  Check out ngrok. It's absolutely brilliant for what you're describing.
  - wuliwong 8y ago
    I remember doing it before from my macbook. I'm not sure if that's a feature or not in os x anymore?
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
- Deadron 8y ago
  SSH remote port forwarding is your friend. You just need an ssh server somewhere thats publicly accessible.
  - aynsof 8y ago
    Hence this service which would appear to be much easier than setting up a persistent remote ssh server with port forwarding.
  - is_your_friend 8y ago
    Pretty condescending.

youngdynasty 8y ago

Thanks for the feedback! I was indeed trying to explain something technical (i.e. a tunneling service) in a non-technical way in an attempt to be friendly towards designers, but it seems like I still have some work to do on the product page.

perfmode 8y ago
These people may not be your target audience. Your product page made sense to me and might also make sense if your customers are web and mobile web developers
noxxten 8y ago
Try describing the process, that's usually what I look for at least when I'm looking at products/services/apps (I'm a designer). Briefly walk through how you can create a folder, throw files in, forward a domain/port, and then it's public. The best product pages I've seen offer a short brief like your current site does, but then also offers the very detailed technical bits behind a "read more" button or accordion. Best of both worlds that way I think.
- youngdynasty 8y ago
  Thanks for your suggestion! I was hoping to perhaps put together a short video to show it off in action (it really is quite simple). That said, it might actually be easier for me to use the "accordion" approach, as you suggested, My video editing skills are pretty limited and this is currently a side project of mine that's completely bootstrapped.
ackfoo 8y ago
I often hear people proudly say, “I’m not technical...” but this is an anachronism. We live in a technical world now. If you’re not technical, you’re a dinosaur and you might as well die off. There’s no point pandering to dinosaurs. The way you wrote your product page and app description is fascinating not because it was so oblique as to be completely meaningless, but because you appear to have been so thoroughly unaware of that fact. This is an extremely common problem with technical documentation. We find pages and pages of description of frameworks and libraries created without simply answering the fundamental question, “What does this do?” And those pages could be easily replaced with one brief annotated example. Technical people are often unaware that they have created a desert of meaning and substance.

mpweiher 8y ago

So maybe a replacement for the Back to My Mac feature that was removed (or is no longer supported) in Mojave? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_My_Mac https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Back_to_My_Mac

thrownaway954 8y ago

yep... this is why programmers make _the worst_ marketers. they market like they code... they think everyone who comes to their site can read their minds so they forgot that they need explain clearly what their product does.

kwhitefoot 8y ago
> explain clearly what their product does Before they even do that they should explain what it is for!