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Can I install MS office using scoop? Or other proprietary software that usually install globally and need admin permissions? Choco can do that (not that I am a

by fxfan 8y ago

Can I install MS office using scoop? Or other proprietary software that usually install globally and need admin permissions? Choco can do that (not that I am affiliated). Also, I like my "path being polluted". The least these programs can do is symlink to a single binary directory so I can run them from anywhere. Simpler repository is just a euphemism for- we have little. As an end user I have no business whether it does it doesn't use nuget. I'm not trying to diss - I respect and appreciate not players in this space but its important to say it like it is. Also, given how "open" choco ecosystem is- I'd love to see non-official tools on top of that.

amanzi 8y ago
I gave up on Choco because it got too hard. I could never tell which package I should install, I was never sure if I should be installing from an elevated prompt or not, and then they added a bunch of premium plans to choose between with a confusing feature matrix.
- GordonS 8y ago
  I really want Chocolately to suceed, but so many packages are outdated, and there are a lot of duplicates, so you often don't know which one you should get. I find the web UI very clunky too.
  - yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
    Have you ever tried to uninstall Chocolatey? When I tried doing that for the first time, it was a terror so I never looked back.
- stuaxo 8y ago
  Most things seem to want an elevated prompt to install, I wish the failure modes were better. It also seems pretty slow, having to download stuff to even tell if it can install a package.
- tracker1 8y ago
  I have to partially agree... I usually create .cmd scripts for windows that have what is needed, with enough checks to rarely have interference, there are some things that don't come out right sometimes though. The question for me is, can I get all the VS build tools, python 2.7.x and 3.x, git for windows and node.js all installed and where it will work from a command prompt with scoop? Setting up a new developer is the primary use for the scripts I have currently. I have one for windows (chocolatey) and one for mac (homebrew), I wouldn't mind if the one for windows was cleaned up a lot.
yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
>The least these programs could do is symlink fo a single binary directory so i can run them from anywhere. Yes, and scoop does exactly that! Everything is added to the path, and if you do like how it’s added to the path, you can easily modify the JSON manifest and submit a PR. The community is thoughtful and considerate but generally against bloat. Scoop also adds shortcuts to the Start Menu. There are some proposals on the table (and have been for a while, without much support) to do more customizations like context menu modifications, but some applications (like VS Code) at least give some instructions for adding that yourself when you run the install.
- fxfan 8y ago
  Thats a major positive score from me.

by fxfan 8y ago

amanzi 8y ago

I gave up on Choco because it got too hard. I could never tell which package I should install, I was never sure if I should be installing from an elevated prompt or not, and then they added a bunch of premium plans to choose between with a confusing feature matrix.

GordonS 8y ago
I really want Chocolately to suceed, but so many packages are outdated, and there are a lot of duplicates, so you often don't know which one you should get. I find the web UI very clunky too.
- yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago
  Have you ever tried to uninstall Chocolatey? When I tried doing that for the first time, it was a terror so I never looked back.
stuaxo 8y ago
Most things seem to want an elevated prompt to install, I wish the failure modes were better. It also seems pretty slow, having to download stuff to even tell if it can install a package.
tracker1 8y ago
I have to partially agree... I usually create .cmd scripts for windows that have what is needed, with enough checks to rarely have interference, there are some things that don't come out right sometimes though. The question for me is, can I get all the VS build tools, python 2.7.x and 3.x, git for windows and node.js all installed and where it will work from a command prompt with scoop? Setting up a new developer is the primary use for the scripts I have currently. I have one for windows (chocolatey) and one for mac (homebrew), I wouldn't mind if the one for windows was cleaned up a lot.

yyyymmddhhmmss 8y ago

>The least these programs could do is symlink fo a single binary directory so i can run them from anywhere. Yes, and scoop does exactly that! Everything is added to the path, and if you do like how it’s added to the path, you can easily modify the JSON manifest and submit a PR. The community is thoughtful and considerate but generally against bloat. Scoop also adds shortcuts to the Start Menu. There are some proposals on the table (and have been for a while, without much support) to do more customizations like context menu modifications, but some applications (like VS Code) at least give some instructions for adding that yourself when you run the install.

fxfan 8y ago
Thats a major positive score from me.