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This is not how homeostasis works (at all). Metabolism is real and so is genetically determined caloric retention. Thin people don't necessarily eat less or exe

This is not how homeostasis works (at all). Metabolism is real and so is genetically determined caloric retention. Thin people don't necessarily eat less or exercise more, they sh*t more calories than fat people, who store more. It's not all this, but it is also not zero this. Regardless, it's absolutely not as simplistic as producing and consuming energy, it's a few billion years of evolved genetic diversity of retaining and eliminating calories for homeostasis.

solveit 8y ago
I don't see how any of that relates to the comment you replied to. No matter how your metabolism works, exercising will burn calories, and I think that's all the above comment was getting at. Now that that's been said, would you happen to have a reference for >Thin people don't necessarily eat less or exercise more, they sh*t more calories than fat people, who store more. this? I would be interested in reading about the correlation.
- krageon 8y ago
  The person you are responding to isn't necessarily wrong about metabolism being real. I wouldn't say fat people "store more", it's just that if you see thin people eating a ton (and not moving much) and being thin the odds are good that they have a very fast metabolism (by which I mean their base metabolic rate is significantly above the average, to the tune of 4k+ kcal per day). I know this because when I was in university we did at-rest calculations with a hood over the head (to calculate oxygen usage, which we used to calculate BMR). Notoriously thin people had outrageous BMRs like I mentioned, while most people were around the average. I don't know about people who are fat, as I didn't have them in my class.
thefz 8y ago
This is not how thermodynamics work and blaming homeostasis sounds a bit too much on the fat apology side rather than real science. Even the fattest person on earth will llose weight at caloric deficit, where deficit is more consumption or less ingestion.
- ykevinator 8y ago
  Homeostasis is real. It's not a religion. And its not blame, it's a social observation that people seek validation or feel ashamed about something that is mostly not in their control. It takes more exercise for a genetically fat person to be thin and more food for a genetically thin person to be fat than their genetic counter parts. Proud genetically thin people who congratulate themselves is as annoying as ashamed genetically fat people beating themselves up is sad.

solveit 8y ago

I don't see how any of that relates to the comment you replied to. No matter how your metabolism works, exercising will burn calories, and I think that's all the above comment was getting at. Now that that's been said, would you happen to have a reference for >Thin people don't necessarily eat less or exercise more, they sh*t more calories than fat people, who store more. this? I would be interested in reading about the correlation.

krageon 8y ago
The person you are responding to isn't necessarily wrong about metabolism being real. I wouldn't say fat people "store more", it's just that if you see thin people eating a ton (and not moving much) and being thin the odds are good that they have a very fast metabolism (by which I mean their base metabolic rate is significantly above the average, to the tune of 4k+ kcal per day). I know this because when I was in university we did at-rest calculations with a hood over the head (to calculate oxygen usage, which we used to calculate BMR). Notoriously thin people had outrageous BMRs like I mentioned, while most people were around the average. I don't know about people who are fat, as I didn't have them in my class.

thefz 8y ago

This is not how thermodynamics work and blaming homeostasis sounds a bit too much on the fat apology side rather than real science. Even the fattest person on earth will llose weight at caloric deficit, where deficit is more consumption or less ingestion.

ykevinator 8y ago
Homeostasis is real. It's not a religion. And its not blame, it's a social observation that people seek validation or feel ashamed about something that is mostly not in their control. It takes more exercise for a genetically fat person to be thin and more food for a genetically thin person to be fat than their genetic counter parts. Proud genetically thin people who congratulate themselves is as annoying as ashamed genetically fat people beating themselves up is sad.