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https://globalnews.ca/news/4855500/facebook-10-year-challenge-facial-recognition/ https://globalnews.ca/news/4855500/facebook-10-year-challeng... https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1085675097766031360?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1085675097766031360&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fglobalnews.ca%2Fnews%2F4855500%2Ffacebook-10-year-challenge-facial-recognition%2F https://twitter.com/facebook/status/1085675097766031360?ref_... and rebuttal. I know that Facebook's actions mean that it no longer deserves the benefit of the doubt but this seems like a non story that someone really wants to be a story. Thinking about it lest say 10,000 people respond, is that even enough data to move the needle? Which photo do you use for the old vs recent? There is alot of cleanup that manually needs to be done for this to be a decent data set. Basic common sense says this is a non story. I did my post undergrad research in 2000 in neural nets and the data sets were our biggest limiting factor, second was computation time. 10,000 data points was a huge set back then and still wasn't enough for most tasks.

opless 8y ago
10,000 ? It's probably many many more times that about three times the magnitude. It might be a bit of a noisy dataset now that it's a meme.
matte_black 8y ago
Cleanup is standard work for any dataset. With enough money and a pile of Indians working for cheap hourly rates you can clean through A LOT of data. 10,000? Try a million!
- halfdan 8y ago
  My guess is you can just use EXIF metadata and/or picture resolution/sharpness to easily sort old Vs. new. Cameras have come a long way in ten years..
  - corobo 8y ago
    As has internet privacy. Any social site keeping EXIF intact will pay big in their bug bounty to hear about it because that's a GDPR nightmare
    - scrollaway 8y ago
      Facebook most certainly keeps exif intact. Just because they don't publish it doesn't mean they don't retain it as metadata. I dont know what you think gdpr is but it's not a magic wand which prevents companies from gathering data.
      - corobo 8y ago
        My response was in the context of a third party using the data
- anoncoward111 8y ago
  Why do they need to be Indian? Sure the data would reflect that a plurality of global low wage workers are from India, but there are also plenty of low wage workers who are not ethnically Indian or geographically based in India (such as all of the Americans working on r/beermoney).
  - matte_black 8y ago
    By using Indian workers you are helping to provide a living wage for people who really need it, not just for “beer money”.
    - anoncoward111 8y ago
      I 1million% agree with giving the money to the worker in need, and I myself would opt for the Indian as well if quality is the same. But, my suspicion is that everyone on beermoney actually has no other income :(
      - matte_black 8y ago
        :(
    - ohGoodJob 8y ago
      Did you really just belittle my 60+ hour work weeks and 45 minute commutes as some frivolity? Do I have a choice about whether or not I have to hold down a job? No. No I don’t. Do I have a choice about the level of competition I must bring to the table to simply tread water? No. No I don’t. If I had a choice, I’d never program another piece of code again, but hey. Yeah, beer money. Like I have a life whereupon I enjoy it enough to drink beer.
      - rrook 8y ago
        I did not interpret matte_black's comment as belittling at all, the post being responded to literally talked about people on the r/beermoney subreddit.
  - 8y ago
- unfunco 8y ago
  I don't think pile is the correct collective noun.
- sctb 8y ago
  You continue to post unsubstantive and/or uncivil comments after we've asked you many times to stop. So, we've banned the account. We're happy to unban accounts if you email us at hn@ycombinator.com and we believe this will change.

opless 8y ago

10,000 ? It's probably many many more times that about three times the magnitude. It might be a bit of a noisy dataset now that it's a meme.

matte_black 8y ago

Cleanup is standard work for any dataset. With enough money and a pile of Indians working for cheap hourly rates you can clean through A LOT of data. 10,000? Try a million!

halfdan 8y ago
My guess is you can just use EXIF metadata and/or picture resolution/sharpness to easily sort old Vs. new. Cameras have come a long way in ten years..
- corobo 8y ago
  As has internet privacy. Any social site keeping EXIF intact will pay big in their bug bounty to hear about it because that's a GDPR nightmare
  - scrollaway 8y ago
    Facebook most certainly keeps exif intact. Just because they don't publish it doesn't mean they don't retain it as metadata. I dont know what you think gdpr is but it's not a magic wand which prevents companies from gathering data.
    - corobo 8y ago
      My response was in the context of a third party using the data
anoncoward111 8y ago
Why do they need to be Indian? Sure the data would reflect that a plurality of global low wage workers are from India, but there are also plenty of low wage workers who are not ethnically Indian or geographically based in India (such as all of the Americans working on r/beermoney).
- matte_black 8y ago
  By using Indian workers you are helping to provide a living wage for people who really need it, not just for “beer money”.
  - anoncoward111 8y ago
    I 1million% agree with giving the money to the worker in need, and I myself would opt for the Indian as well if quality is the same. But, my suspicion is that everyone on beermoney actually has no other income :(
    - matte_black 8y ago
      :(
  - ohGoodJob 8y ago
    Did you really just belittle my 60+ hour work weeks and 45 minute commutes as some frivolity? Do I have a choice about whether or not I have to hold down a job? No. No I don’t. Do I have a choice about the level of competition I must bring to the table to simply tread water? No. No I don’t. If I had a choice, I’d never program another piece of code again, but hey. Yeah, beer money. Like I have a life whereupon I enjoy it enough to drink beer.
    - rrook 8y ago
      I did not interpret matte_black's comment as belittling at all, the post being responded to literally talked about people on the r/beermoney subreddit.
- 8y ago
unfunco 8y ago
I don't think pile is the correct collective noun.
sctb 8y ago
You continue to post unsubstantive and/or uncivil comments after we've asked you many times to stop. So, we've banned the account. We're happy to unban accounts if you email us at hn@ycombinator.com and we believe this will change.