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Well, about that... https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ It's a smart move really. Netflix saves bandwidth and ISPs save tr
by sascha_sl 8y ago
Well, about that...
https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/ https://openconnect.netflix.com/en/
It's a smart move really. Netflix saves bandwidth and ISPs save transit capacity.
Might also be the reason Netflix is so good at detecting if you're connecting from a "residential" IP block.
- miguelrochefort 8y agoHow is that compatible with Net Neutrality? Can an ISP subsidize access to Netflix because they save on transit?
- usrusr 8y agoIt's only incompatible when ISPs actually act on their natural preference for consumption to go towards in-house edge caches. It's not that much different from the ancient art of configuring http servers and caching proxies to get along well (back even caching proxies were still a thing).
- cbzoiav 8y agoCDNs have been doing this for years. It's nothing new!
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoWhich other websites (or consumer media companies) have cabinets in ISPs arrive the globe; honestly I've only heard of Netflix doing it. So, are there CDNs without their own racks anywhere?
- cobookman 8y agoSome of Google's services. See "Edge nodes": https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure
- jedberg 8y agoYouTube does, and a bunch of other sites do it by using Akamai, CloudFlare, Fastly, etc.
- pbhjpbhj 8y agoSo Akamai, CloudFlare et al. will locate servers in a large ISPs data centre. TIL, I just assumed once a resource had been cached then they'd effectively have that collocation (logically); I'm surprised if avoiding the cost of the first hit really saves anything for static content. Obviously anyone streaming video, it's different. I wonder if BBC iPlayer (major streaming service in UK) collocate with ISPs. Will those servers have a local (to the ISP) IP, or do the Akamai IPs get physically routed to the AS? Fascinating stuff.
- lscotte 8y agoIt is a CDN, but what's new is that the openconnect appliances are distributed not just in datacenters, but directly to ISPs. Traditional CDNs aren't in your ISP.
- pyvpx 8y agoAkamai would like to have a word with you
- ksec 8y agoDo Akamai has Servers right in ISP's DC / Network? I know they are within 1 hoops in lots of places, but never heard they are actually inside ISP's network, which is what Netflix OpenAppliance and Google Edge Node has done.
- jedberg 8y agoNetflix got the idea from Akamai. They are in your ISP for sure.
- ksec 8y agoI have often wonder why Netflix doesn't uses its Fast.com to offer CDN services. They could also have offer their Encoding System as Services. I upload a video file, sets a few requirements and I get Netflix Quality encoding in return without me fiddling anything.
- jedberg 8y agoThe answer to both of those is "because Netflix is a video delivery service, not an infrastructure service". It would be a whole new skillset for the company to offer such a service. Running those things, and selling them, are two very different things.
- ksec 8y agoI guess so, It is just a nice idea. It was one day I notice how Fast the response time were in Fast.com compared to others. I am not even sure if Google Edge Node in the ISP even works with the GCP CDN, because their performance don't seems to be leading the pack. The Market for CDN and Online Video Encoding that Netflix could get are properly in the sub annual $1B range, may be too small for Netflix to even consider. I just thought the more traffic passing through those FreeBSD Server the better.