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I wish Flutter itself has been written in Go. Actually, I've written an article a few days ago fantasising on how it could look like – "Thought Experiment: Flu

by divan 8y ago

I wish Flutter itself has been written in Go. Actually, I've written an article a few days ago fantasising on how it could look like – "Thought Experiment: Flutter in Go" https://divan.github.io/posts/flutter_go/ https://divan.github.io/posts/flutter_go/

danieldisu 8y ago
I wish it was written in Kotlin! tbh I don't really care in what language is written, but I would really like to create Apps with Kotlin using Flutter instead of having to learn another language that it's (in my opinion) a bit inferior than the one I'm currently using. I can see myself using flutter as a thin UI layer and just forget about the mess that Android UI layer is...
- rhodysurf 8y ago
  Kotlin is awesome and Dart is not as awesome but when you are like me and write C++, Java, and Fortran at work all day Dart still feels better than those. Plus you never have to mess around with the Android UI layer...
  - danieldisu 8y ago
    Yeah, I prefer Dart + Flutter vs anything + Android UI layer... But the library ecosystem of the JVM and Android specifics is just too big, it will take time for Dart and Flutter to have even a small part. And also people with knowledge of the language and the ecosystem, it may be a bit risky to use Flutter right now.
- solarkraft 8y ago
  I wish it was written language-agnostically, with bindings for everything, like libui.
rhodysurf 8y ago
Looks cool but it ignores what Dart brings over everything else: Hot reload.
- pjmlp 8y ago
  Ah that feature I was using during the 90s for GUI development, but apparently was invented by Dart.
  - hexmiles 8y ago
    What were you using that supported hot reload?
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Commercial Common Lisp and Smalltalk environments with student packages while at the university, before Java was announced to the world.
      - stcredzero 8y ago
        In a lot of Smalltalk environments, you could change the function's (method's) code in the debugger, referencing state to help follow what's going on, roll back enough stack frames to be safe, then continue. People built entire systems like that.
  - deleted 8y ago
    [deleted]
  - coldtea 8y ago
    Anything mainstream with actual jobs attached, or some bizarro language that nobody used except for some research OS or something?
    - pjmlp 8y ago
      Common Lisp and Smalltalk had actual jobs attached during the 90's, and there are still people getting paid to use those systems on enterprise settings. LispWorks, Allegro, Cincom, GemTalk are still in business.
      - 8y ago

by divan 8y ago

danieldisu 8y ago

I wish it was written in Kotlin! tbh I don't really care in what language is written, but I would really like to create Apps with Kotlin using Flutter instead of having to learn another language that it's (in my opinion) a bit inferior than the one I'm currently using. I can see myself using flutter as a thin UI layer and just forget about the mess that Android UI layer is...

rhodysurf 8y ago
Kotlin is awesome and Dart is not as awesome but when you are like me and write C++, Java, and Fortran at work all day Dart still feels better than those. Plus you never have to mess around with the Android UI layer...
- danieldisu 8y ago
  Yeah, I prefer Dart + Flutter vs anything + Android UI layer... But the library ecosystem of the JVM and Android specifics is just too big, it will take time for Dart and Flutter to have even a small part. And also people with knowledge of the language and the ecosystem, it may be a bit risky to use Flutter right now.
solarkraft 8y ago
I wish it was written language-agnostically, with bindings for everything, like libui.

rhodysurf 8y ago

Looks cool but it ignores what Dart brings over everything else: Hot reload.

pjmlp 8y ago
Ah that feature I was using during the 90s for GUI development, but apparently was invented by Dart.
- hexmiles 8y ago
  What were you using that supported hot reload?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Commercial Common Lisp and Smalltalk environments with student packages while at the university, before Java was announced to the world.
    - stcredzero 8y ago
      In a lot of Smalltalk environments, you could change the function's (method's) code in the debugger, referencing state to help follow what's going on, roll back enough stack frames to be safe, then continue. People built entire systems like that.
- deleted 8y ago
  [deleted]
- coldtea 8y ago
  Anything mainstream with actual jobs attached, or some bizarro language that nobody used except for some research OS or something?
  - pjmlp 8y ago
    Common Lisp and Smalltalk had actual jobs attached during the 90's, and there are still people getting paid to use those systems on enterprise settings. LispWorks, Allegro, Cincom, GemTalk are still in business.
    - 8y ago