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It's not that interesting. Manipulation was targeted at people more susceptible to it. I expect that most racism/sexism/bigotry generally comes from prior mani

by alxh87 8y ago

It's not that interesting. Manipulation was targeted at people more susceptible to it. I expect that most racism/sexism/bigotry generally comes from prior manipulation too.

asabjorn 8y ago
How do you know that other more major political stories is not the real product of manipulation [1] and these opposition movements are a symptom of problems not solved by a malfunctioning Democratic system? [1] https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA
- alxh87 8y ago
  They could be, but there is a much lower threshold to manipulate people who are close-minded. Almost everyone I've encountered who repeats racially charged headlines is LESS likely to have much personal experience with the people they feel so strongly about, even to the point of avoiding encounters with those people.
  - asabjorn 8y ago
    Close minded means you are not open to new impulses.If they are close minded they by definition is bound by something old which should make them harder to manipulate. A person that does the creative arts is generally very open minded.
raxxorrax 8y ago
My country was recently victim of a "hacker"-attack. Personal accounts of politicians were compromised. Everyone and their cats pointed their fingers at Russia. In the end it was a younger pupil and far too many people used their surname as password. I doubt that a significant part of the population are reiterating Kremlin-propaganda. It seems to be a hysterical Red Scare 2.0, just from a different political side, that is just as opportunistic. If you always see Putin in your dreams, I doubt you should point a finger on people and diagnose any form of manipulation. There are certainly some bots, but I doubt Russia is represented disproportionally. Just the language barrier alone would lessen their numbers significantly. It often just serves as a convenient excuse for political defeat. Putin is totalitarian dick. Why not just leave it at that instead of accusing people of asserting his will?

by alxh87 8y ago

It's not that interesting. Manipulation was targeted at people more susceptible to it. I expect that most racism/sexism/bigotry generally comes from prior manipulation too.

asabjorn 8y ago

How do you know that other more major political stories is not the real product of manipulation [1] and these opposition movements are a symptom of problems not solved by a malfunctioning Democratic system? [1] https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA https://youtu.be/bX3EZCVj2XA

alxh87 8y ago
They could be, but there is a much lower threshold to manipulate people who are close-minded. Almost everyone I've encountered who repeats racially charged headlines is LESS likely to have much personal experience with the people they feel so strongly about, even to the point of avoiding encounters with those people.
- asabjorn 8y ago
  Close minded means you are not open to new impulses.If they are close minded they by definition is bound by something old which should make them harder to manipulate. A person that does the creative arts is generally very open minded.

raxxorrax 8y ago

My country was recently victim of a "hacker"-attack. Personal accounts of politicians were compromised. Everyone and their cats pointed their fingers at Russia. In the end it was a younger pupil and far too many people used their surname as password. I doubt that a significant part of the population are reiterating Kremlin-propaganda. It seems to be a hysterical Red Scare 2.0, just from a different political side, that is just as opportunistic. If you always see Putin in your dreams, I doubt you should point a finger on people and diagnose any form of manipulation. There are certainly some bots, but I doubt Russia is represented disproportionally. Just the language barrier alone would lessen their numbers significantly. It often just serves as a convenient excuse for political defeat. Putin is totalitarian dick. Why not just leave it at that instead of accusing people of asserting his will?