I am trying to comprehend your comment. It seems like you are calling the Apache Software Foundation "bunch of salesman-type assholes threatening to destroy bi

I am trying to comprehend your comment. It seems like you are calling the Apache Software Foundation "bunch of salesman-type assholes threatening to destroy billions (or more) in value in order to measure the length of their dicks is sickening.". That kind of statement seems extremely delusional to the facts of how the ASF has interacted with the Java ecosystem for the last decade. The dispute is about a promise that Sun made -- and signed into with how the JCP was setup -- that a specification for a Java API, and the Testing of that API (TCK), are available open-enough to allow free and open source implementations. The ASF joined the JCP because it believed Sun would live up to this promise. Oracle supported the ASF position, before it bought Sun, because it wanted an more open Java language. But now that Oracle bought Sun, their position switched, and they are actively working to prevent other implementations of the Language from being created. This is not about politics and farting, this is about a contract and a promise that Sun made to the community.