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I live in SF and am charging $15/hr for Clojure exclusively. No bites yet. My budget is $1,500/mo total, $600 being food. Awe yea. I charge what the market will

I live in SF and am charging $15/hr for Clojure exclusively. No bites yet. My budget is $1,500/mo total, $600 being food. Awe yea. I charge what the market will bear, starting at minimum wage. China is about $45 fyi, last I paid—good talking point.

hirundo 8y ago
> My budget is $1,500/mo total, $600 being food. How do you pay for housing in SF with $900/mo or less?
geobmx540 8y ago
Do you mean 150/hr?
gremlinsinc 8y ago
If you're trying to do only clojure and nobody is biting, you might want to pivot to a less obscure framework/platform... I picked vue because I prefer it's templates to jsx, and I like vuex and it's sort of well documented for use with laravel. But if I hadn't picked vue, I'd have gone with react because of market domination. I'm currently even thinking of pivoting from laravel to node based backends because it seems js devs make all the $$... and I'm not so locked into laravel that I can't move or jump to other frameworks. The more you know the more you can charge...I have many friends who target a specific vertical like Fintech that charge between $100-200/hour for js/node development as freelancers. Working on teams I've made around $35/hr, solo depending on the client I've pitched 40-60... I work w/ a lot of small businesses who that's on the high end for them --they're used to wordpress devs at $25 or less per hour on upwork. Clojure being a bit obscure though, I think freelance would be harder to secure, but a full-time gig at a shop/agency or startup who's apps are built on that framework would be easier, as long as you have a good portfolio and very active github showing activity w/ that.
slow_donkey 8y ago
If someone approached me as a clojure dev charging $15/hr I'd think they were a scammer.
nradov 8y ago
Don't orient your career around a particular programming language. Focusing on languages makes you a replacable commodity. What industries do you understand? How can you add business value?

hirundo 8y ago

> My budget is $1,500/mo total, $600 being food. How do you pay for housing in SF with $900/mo or less?

geobmx540 8y ago

Do you mean 150/hr?

gremlinsinc 8y ago

If you're trying to do only clojure and nobody is biting, you might want to pivot to a less obscure framework/platform... I picked vue because I prefer it's templates to jsx, and I like vuex and it's sort of well documented for use with laravel. But if I hadn't picked vue, I'd have gone with react because of market domination. I'm currently even thinking of pivoting from laravel to node based backends because it seems js devs make all the $$... and I'm not so locked into laravel that I can't move or jump to other frameworks. The more you know the more you can charge...I have many friends who target a specific vertical like Fintech that charge between $100-200/hour for js/node development as freelancers. Working on teams I've made around $35/hr, solo depending on the client I've pitched 40-60... I work w/ a lot of small businesses who that's on the high end for them --they're used to wordpress devs at $25 or less per hour on upwork. Clojure being a bit obscure though, I think freelance would be harder to secure, but a full-time gig at a shop/agency or startup who's apps are built on that framework would be easier, as long as you have a good portfolio and very active github showing activity w/ that.

slow_donkey 8y ago

If someone approached me as a clojure dev charging $15/hr I'd think they were a scammer.

nradov 8y ago

Don't orient your career around a particular programming language. Focusing on languages makes you a replacable commodity. What industries do you understand? How can you add business value?