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There is a mountain in the alps where I used to hike in the winter, cross-country with ski skins - a day outing with excellent fresh snow. Few people had the sk

There is a mountain in the alps where I used to hike in the winter, cross-country with ski skins - a day outing with excellent fresh snow. Few people had the skills or equipment to get there - it felt exclusive, we had fun and the people we met there sometimes and exchanged a few words with were always excellent people just like us. On summiting we used to add a stone to the cairn. Now there is a ski resort, with cable car going to the summit. Every day thousands of people of all stripes enjoy the wonderful view, have fun in the good and well groomed snow on the marked pistes - with the convenience of a heated shop for snacks & souvenirs... Cue Dire Strait's Telegraph Road...

pesmhey 8y ago
>it felt exclusive You can definitely recreate the feeling of exclusivity today on the internet.
- ndnxhs 8y ago
  Lots of invite only websites around that have really great communities. Getting in can be a bit hard but once you are in they tend to cross invite to other invite only sites.
  - atmosx 8y ago
    Can you name four?
    - ndnxhs 8y ago
      lobster.rs - invite only tech site. More focused in tech than hacker news and less business/troll comments. tildes.net - similar to reddit but with a heavy focus on no memes/fluff posts RED - great music and general forum with next to no bait/troll posts. There are lots more but those are the ones I personally enjoy.
      - random_kris 8y ago
        can you gimme invite code for tildes.net ? sounds interesting
        thedailymail 8y ago
        https://docs.tildes.net/contact https://docs.tildes.net/contact
      - marttt 8y ago
        There is also Wilby, a search engine for "oldschool", static, single-person-curated sites like these: https://wiby.me/ https://wiby.me/ From Wilby's about page: "Search engines like Google are indispensable, able to find answers to all of your technical questions; but along the way, the fun of web surfing was lost. In the early days of the web, pages were made primarily by hobbyists, academics, and computer savvy people about subjects they were interested in. Later on, the web became saturated with commercial pages that overcrowded everything else. All the personalized websites are hidden among a pile of commercial pages. Google isn't great at finding those gems, its focus is on finding answers to technical questions, and it works well; but finding things you didn't know you wanted to know, which was the real joy of web surfing, no longer happens. In addition, many pages today are created using bloated scripts that add slick cosmetic features in order to mask the lack of content available on them. Those pages contribute to the blandness of today's web. The Wiby search engine is building a web of pages as it was in the earlier days of the internet. In addition, Wiby helps vintage computers to continue browsing the web, as page results are more suitable for their performance." EDIT: See also this reddit thread for additional references: https://www.reddit.com/r/TTTThis/comments/72ukag/rememberwebsites/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TTTThis/comments/72ukag/rememberweb... (with e.g. sheldonbrown.com being my object of fascination in circa 2005 -- a remarkable encyclopedia for bicycle maintainers).
  - acutesoftware 8y ago
    Do you have any good examples?
    - ndnxhs 8y ago
      Check the comment I left on the sibling comment.
  - blfr 8y ago
    I am on a couple trackers and forums like that. They're usually pretty slow and those that were once open slow down when they become invite only.
    - ndnxhs 8y ago
      Slow is fine for me. The ones I look at tend to have a slow but quality stream of posts. Encourages you to check just once a day and leave a few well thought out comments. The slowness also means your comments get read by more people before they get drowned out by the firehouse of memes and insults. When I post something on tildes.net I see there are a lot of upvotes that come in over a few days so I know people are reading but when I post something on twitter I don't think anyone ever reads that unless they log in at the second I post it.
ip26 8y ago
In the Alps? I had thought the cable cars have all been there for a lifetime by now, and of course it seems like every great mountain has some ancient town or another at it's base. Where in the Alps was this?
- liotier 8y ago
  Edge of La Vanoise, near Les Trois Vallées, mid-eighties.

pesmhey 8y ago

>it felt exclusive You can definitely recreate the feeling of exclusivity today on the internet.

ndnxhs 8y ago
Lots of invite only websites around that have really great communities. Getting in can be a bit hard but once you are in they tend to cross invite to other invite only sites.
- atmosx 8y ago
  Can you name four?
  - ndnxhs 8y ago
    lobster.rs - invite only tech site. More focused in tech than hacker news and less business/troll comments. tildes.net - similar to reddit but with a heavy focus on no memes/fluff posts RED - great music and general forum with next to no bait/troll posts. There are lots more but those are the ones I personally enjoy.
    - random_kris 8y ago
      can you gimme invite code for tildes.net ? sounds interesting
      - thedailymail 8y ago
        https://docs.tildes.net/contact https://docs.tildes.net/contact
    - marttt 8y ago
      There is also Wilby, a search engine for "oldschool", static, single-person-curated sites like these: https://wiby.me/ https://wiby.me/ From Wilby's about page: "Search engines like Google are indispensable, able to find answers to all of your technical questions; but along the way, the fun of web surfing was lost. In the early days of the web, pages were made primarily by hobbyists, academics, and computer savvy people about subjects they were interested in. Later on, the web became saturated with commercial pages that overcrowded everything else. All the personalized websites are hidden among a pile of commercial pages. Google isn't great at finding those gems, its focus is on finding answers to technical questions, and it works well; but finding things you didn't know you wanted to know, which was the real joy of web surfing, no longer happens. In addition, many pages today are created using bloated scripts that add slick cosmetic features in order to mask the lack of content available on them. Those pages contribute to the blandness of today's web. The Wiby search engine is building a web of pages as it was in the earlier days of the internet. In addition, Wiby helps vintage computers to continue browsing the web, as page results are more suitable for their performance." EDIT: See also this reddit thread for additional references: https://www.reddit.com/r/TTTThis/comments/72ukag/rememberwebsites/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TTTThis/comments/72ukag/rememberweb... (with e.g. sheldonbrown.com being my object of fascination in circa 2005 -- a remarkable encyclopedia for bicycle maintainers).
- acutesoftware 8y ago
  Do you have any good examples?
  - ndnxhs 8y ago
    Check the comment I left on the sibling comment.
- blfr 8y ago
  I am on a couple trackers and forums like that. They're usually pretty slow and those that were once open slow down when they become invite only.
  - ndnxhs 8y ago
    Slow is fine for me. The ones I look at tend to have a slow but quality stream of posts. Encourages you to check just once a day and leave a few well thought out comments. The slowness also means your comments get read by more people before they get drowned out by the firehouse of memes and insults. When I post something on tildes.net I see there are a lot of upvotes that come in over a few days so I know people are reading but when I post something on twitter I don't think anyone ever reads that unless they log in at the second I post it.

ip26 8y ago

In the Alps? I had thought the cable cars have all been there for a lifetime by now, and of course it seems like every great mountain has some ancient town or another at it's base. Where in the Alps was this?

liotier 8y ago
Edge of La Vanoise, near Les Trois Vallées, mid-eighties.