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Those cameras are not to protect pedestrians, they exist to enforce drivers to stick to the speed limit. Look at these charts. Speeding rural areas kill! Also,

by TomK32 8y ago

Those cameras are not to protect pedestrians, they exist to enforce drivers to stick to the speed limit. Look at these charts. Speeding rural areas kill! Also, take a guess at what time SUVs became popular in urban areas. https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/roadway-and-environment/fatalityfacts/roadway-and-environment https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/roadway-and-environment/f...

IshKebab 8y ago
Very interesting tables! I'm not sure what you mean by "Speeding rural areas kill!" but the relevant table shows that the same proportion of deaths are speeding related in rural and urban locations.
tomp 8y ago
The point is, speed cameras are just a bad solution. At best, they're a passive aggressive way of exerting government control over citizens. At worst, they're a revenue-increasing mafia-protection-like tool. If you actually want to protect pedestrians, you build physical "traffic calming" obstacles like speed bumps or chicanes [1]. Switzerland is full of these, and they're very effective. There's really no good reason to have speed cameras (although red light cameras might be a better idea), especially on the motorway (Germany manages without motorway speed limits, so clearly they're not necessary to have a functioning society). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane#Traffic_calming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane#Traffic_calming
- CalRobert 8y ago
  That is indeed the best solution. I'd love to have them everywhere.
- nojvek 8y ago
  Yes speed bumps are way more effective than cameras. Australia is full of them in sneaky places. It makes the driving experience quite stressful. The speed limits are sometimes ridiculously low and it’s like playing a game. Speed bumps/breakers are way more effective at slowing cars down. If you don’t slow, you get a big fat jolt and damage your shocks. I like driving in US much better.

by TomK32 8y ago

IshKebab 8y ago

Very interesting tables! I'm not sure what you mean by "Speeding rural areas kill!" but the relevant table shows that the same proportion of deaths are speeding related in rural and urban locations.

tomp 8y ago

The point is, speed cameras are just a bad solution. At best, they're a passive aggressive way of exerting government control over citizens. At worst, they're a revenue-increasing mafia-protection-like tool. If you actually want to protect pedestrians, you build physical "traffic calming" obstacles like speed bumps or chicanes [1]. Switzerland is full of these, and they're very effective. There's really no good reason to have speed cameras (although red light cameras might be a better idea), especially on the motorway (Germany manages without motorway speed limits, so clearly they're not necessary to have a functioning society). [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane#Traffic_calming https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicane#Traffic_calming

CalRobert 8y ago
That is indeed the best solution. I'd love to have them everywhere.
nojvek 8y ago
Yes speed bumps are way more effective than cameras. Australia is full of them in sneaky places. It makes the driving experience quite stressful. The speed limits are sometimes ridiculously low and it’s like playing a game. Speed bumps/breakers are way more effective at slowing cars down. If you don’t slow, you get a big fat jolt and damage your shocks. I like driving in US much better.