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isn't Storyboard based on components (parts) first (atomic design)? Elm is the opposite, it's focused on the whole which you then use as the basis for parts at

isn't Storyboard based on components (parts) first (atomic design)? Elm is the opposite, it's focused on the whole which you then use as the basis for parts at actual design time (thinking about layout and hierarchy). So in a way Elm is about form following function (creating visuals from existing functionality), while most of the other environments are focused on function following form instead (creating functionality based on existing visuals).

the_gipsy 8y ago
You can perfectly do the design-first process with Elm, I thought you were maybe accustomed to Storyboard or something like that. IMHO you can do design-first process with Elm just like with React. There is no Storyboard equivalent that I'm aware of, but I never found it useful enough but maybe it is, for toolkit/library designers. I have found that I work differently depending on environment. I do model/types/functionality first if working on my own, but in a corporate environment I typically get designs handed together with some kind of specification, so there I often do "design-first".
- deltron3030 8y ago
  >I have found that I work differently depending on environment. That's the best way to handle this I think. I didn't mean that you can't do specific workflows in either framework or language, just that there is a "native ideal way" of how things are done. Philosophically it's an interesting topic, because there are many arguments for and against either method. It's also way bigger than programming, it's about evolution itself.
- elbear 8y ago
  I'm don't mean to nitpick, but did you mean storybook instead of storyboard? That's the only project that I've found which sounds like what you're talking about https://github.com/storybooks/storybook https://github.com/storybooks/storybook
  - the_gipsy 8y ago
    Yes, totally. I must have it confused with iOS' storyboards.

the_gipsy 8y ago

You can perfectly do the design-first process with Elm, I thought you were maybe accustomed to Storyboard or something like that. IMHO you can do design-first process with Elm just like with React. There is no Storyboard equivalent that I'm aware of, but I never found it useful enough but maybe it is, for toolkit/library designers. I have found that I work differently depending on environment. I do model/types/functionality first if working on my own, but in a corporate environment I typically get designs handed together with some kind of specification, so there I often do "design-first".

deltron3030 8y ago
>I have found that I work differently depending on environment. That's the best way to handle this I think. I didn't mean that you can't do specific workflows in either framework or language, just that there is a "native ideal way" of how things are done. Philosophically it's an interesting topic, because there are many arguments for and against either method. It's also way bigger than programming, it's about evolution itself.
elbear 8y ago
I'm don't mean to nitpick, but did you mean storybook instead of storyboard? That's the only project that I've found which sounds like what you're talking about https://github.com/storybooks/storybook https://github.com/storybooks/storybook
- the_gipsy 8y ago
  Yes, totally. I must have it confused with iOS' storyboards.