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Yeah, that's pricy. They're definitely not going after early-stage startups then. But if you have a medium-sized data set (eg. 50+ GB), this is definitely comp

by a13n 8y ago

Yeah, that's pricy. They're definitely not going after early-stage startups then. But if you have a medium-sized data set (eg. 50+ GB), this is definitely competitively priced. More RAM, storage, compute than Mongo Atlas and Compose for less money. Here's hoping they introduce cheaper options!

orf 8y ago
50GB is a really small data set.
- deleted 8y ago
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- a13n 8y ago
  Eh, by what measure? Realistically it's probably bigger than 90% of all Mongo datasets. It's tiny if you're a massive company and it's massive if you're a tiny startup.
  - q3k 8y ago
    50GB easily fits in RAM. It's a small dataset.
  - orf 8y ago
    If you can run the dataset comfortably on a Macbook then it's very, very small. Heck, you can even just use grep over 50GB reading straight from disk. It's tiny.
- djohnston 8y ago
  in my experience it qualifies as "medium"
  - orf 8y ago
    If it can be stuck in a sqlite database and run on a developer laptop, then no, it is not medium by any standard. Please elaborate why you think 50Gb is anything other than a small dataset that can fit in memory on any half-decent server though.
    - djohnston 8y ago
      [edit] in the spirit of not being a condescending tool to you, i'll replace my original reply with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail
  - privateSFacct 8y ago
    I'm assuming this is a joke. You can run databases that size without any of the fancy scalability stuff - no sharding no anything. I'd actually recommend that, it's makes admin super easy!
- kstrauser 8y ago
  A recent work Slack chat had a dev asking what a particular table contained. They were going through our data inventory and found a randomly-named table 18TB in size. When I ran "select count()" against it, I got back 5,325,451,020,708 rows (that's a copy-and-paste). 50GB isn't trivial, but it's utterly manageable.
  - Aeolun 8y ago
    It seems a bit wrong if you have a 18TB table but no idea what it contains...
    - kstrauser 8y ago
      It was a temp table that we hadn't garbage collected yet. We don't make a habit of leaving that much junk data around, but it bumped our monthly storage bill several percent, not like tripled it.
      - apta 8y ago
        Was this a relational or NoSQL DB?
        kstrauser 8y ago
        It's primarily in things like Spark and Snowflake that act like relational DBs as long as you squint the right way.
- wpietri 8y ago
  Is an argument based on the premise that relative terms have absolute meanings a good use of people's time here?

by a13n 8y ago

orf 8y ago

50GB is a really small data set.

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a13n 8y ago
Eh, by what measure? Realistically it's probably bigger than 90% of all Mongo datasets. It's tiny if you're a massive company and it's massive if you're a tiny startup.
- q3k 8y ago
  50GB easily fits in RAM. It's a small dataset.
- orf 8y ago
  If you can run the dataset comfortably on a Macbook then it's very, very small. Heck, you can even just use grep over 50GB reading straight from disk. It's tiny.
djohnston 8y ago
in my experience it qualifies as "medium"
- orf 8y ago
  If it can be stuck in a sqlite database and run on a developer laptop, then no, it is not medium by any standard. Please elaborate why you think 50Gb is anything other than a small dataset that can fit in memory on any half-decent server though.
  - djohnston 8y ago
    [edit] in the spirit of not being a condescending tool to you, i'll replace my original reply with this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_tail
- privateSFacct 8y ago
  I'm assuming this is a joke. You can run databases that size without any of the fancy scalability stuff - no sharding no anything. I'd actually recommend that, it's makes admin super easy!
kstrauser 8y ago
A recent work Slack chat had a dev asking what a particular table contained. They were going through our data inventory and found a randomly-named table 18TB in size. When I ran "select count()" against it, I got back 5,325,451,020,708 rows (that's a copy-and-paste). 50GB isn't trivial, but it's utterly manageable.
- Aeolun 8y ago
  It seems a bit wrong if you have a 18TB table but no idea what it contains...
  - kstrauser 8y ago
    It was a temp table that we hadn't garbage collected yet. We don't make a habit of leaving that much junk data around, but it bumped our monthly storage bill several percent, not like tripled it.
    - apta 8y ago
      Was this a relational or NoSQL DB?
      - kstrauser 8y ago
        It's primarily in things like Spark and Snowflake that act like relational DBs as long as you squint the right way.
wpietri 8y ago
Is an argument based on the premise that relative terms have absolute meanings a good use of people's time here?