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1) it is seen as a status symbol, almost everywhere outside of western Europe and US/Canada. I have been to about 80 countries. The way it works is everyone w

by a11595 8y ago

1) it is seen as a status symbol, almost everywhere outside of western Europe and US/Canada. I have been to about 80 countries. The way it works is everyone who is anyone always uses the latest iphone, thought they cannot afford a toilet seat. And everyone wants to think they're someone. 2) I can put any of the hundreds of versions of Android on the S8, and it'll be supported for over a decade. Hell, I don't even have google's android version on my pixel2. How's that 5s running on the latest updates? Does the answer button draw itself in time to pick up the phone? My Galaxy S (original) still runs fine, with the latest security updates. 2) "Services Business" - he is not comparing the entire apple to the entire netflix. He is talking about apple's failed venture into streaming shows and movies. You are being purposely dense here, not sure why. By your logic Windows Phone is a success because MS makes a lot of money from Azure. 3) Android won by the measure of what wins. Almost all phones are Android. Things that don't lead to profits are meaningless in terms of who won? To us, consumers, who most all use Android, it has won. Who cares what money the producers make? Now I'll leave this to your for a though exercise. Take all the slim profits from all the Android phones, tablets, cash register terminals, cameras, light switches, conference booking pads on the walls, etc. Add all those, for every device running Android. It won by your fake measure too.

scarface74 8y ago
1. Japan also has a high share of iOS users. 2. Yes most users are going to put one of a “hundreds” (exaggerate much?) of versions of Android on their phone and not be able to run apps that requires Google Play services. 3. Apple made two shows - Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke. No one expected those two shows to be a hit. Apple’s Services Business is still 5 times larger than Netflix. 4. Yes for profit seeking businesses, a success is by definition what makes money. As far as users winning they have a privacy invasive operating system on a phone that doesn’t see updates more than 18 months - if they are lucky.
- matwood 8y ago
  You have good points. It is hard for people to understand numbers when they get really large. How many phones Apple sells, the amount of money they make, or something like how many searches/day Google handles are just so big that it's hard to comprehend. To your point above, I wish Apple broke out more numbers because the Apple Watch probably made more in profit than Netflix. And that was a product that was buried as a complete failure by tech pundits, geeks, and the press.
- a11595 8y ago
  1) there are 130mil people in japan. there are 1.5bil people in India, and they don't have iphones. Most people are poor. Most people are on android - that's a simple fact you can google. 2) there are hundreds. there are at least 25 official main ones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distrib...). there are also hundreds of code-saavy people baking their own. you can also pick kernels, modem drivers, whatever you want. the point is, when the device vendor stops making patches, your phone still goes on for 10+ years. 3) the OP was talking about video streaming of movies and shows, not "services business." what is it you are not getting here? you actually seem like a paid shill that makes straw men. 4) Android is not privacy invading. There are 10+ versions of Android for my pixel phone alone, without a trace of google stuff. I'm running one of those. The OS that wins is the OS most installed. If a free open source OS is the most installed one it is the winner. If you have a free OS installed on 1mil devices, and a $1 OS installed on 2 devices, it does not mean the $1 OS "wins." I'm almost positive you are a paid shill, but I'm too lazy to check your post history. No one could be so delusional (maybe religious people). Do you believe in Zeus or Jesus by chance, or are against vaccines? If you say yes, I'll understand your reasoning.
bacro 8y ago
2) How come the original Galaxy S "runs fine"? That was a pos! The gps didn't work, the performance was laughable compared to the iphone 4 at the time. How can you say this???
- inawarminister 8y ago
  GPS didn't work? Was this one of those crippled AT&T or Verizon version (which I only hazily remembers)? I had the international Galaxy S for 2 years (2012-2014) and it was really great... Then again, I was into flashing ROMs every week or so, so perhaps the original TouchWiz performance was that bad?
  - bacro 8y ago
    I had the internation Galaxy S as well and never my GPS worked, I say again __NEVER__ even after the Samsung promised fix. Lots and lots of lag when doing anything, the screen was awful with blue tint (it was marketed that amoled was much better than lcd at the time, a f*ing lie), battery was mediocre. Maybe you are talking about Galaxy S 2? I had mine in 2010.
    - inawarminister 8y ago
      Hmm mine was a hands-me-down from my father, and I actually never used a S2 lol Went from Galaxy S to iPhone 4S to Note 2 I think I fixed the GPS by following an instruction in XDA.... I don't remember, its been 5 years already? God I feel old
- a11595 8y ago
  maybe they had a couple of lemons and you got one. I loaded a new gps driver from xda and gps worked great. when your new iphone wasn't getting a cell tower signal because you were holding it wrong, did you just load a new modem driver? how about the fact that while all the phones were on 3g at the time, the iphone was 2g? my performance was great, and the phone still works fine to this day, with security patches from xda. I use it for travel so if border agents ask questions I don't like coming back in and I respond with graphic descriptions of how their mom takes it in the ass, they can take it away.

by a11595 8y ago

scarface74 8y ago

1. Japan also has a high share of iOS users. 2. Yes most users are going to put one of a “hundreds” (exaggerate much?) of versions of Android on their phone and not be able to run apps that requires Google Play services. 3. Apple made two shows - Planet of the Apps and Carpool Karaoke. No one expected those two shows to be a hit. Apple’s Services Business is still 5 times larger than Netflix. 4. Yes for profit seeking businesses, a success is by definition what makes money. As far as users winning they have a privacy invasive operating system on a phone that doesn’t see updates more than 18 months - if they are lucky.

matwood 8y ago
You have good points. It is hard for people to understand numbers when they get really large. How many phones Apple sells, the amount of money they make, or something like how many searches/day Google handles are just so big that it's hard to comprehend. To your point above, I wish Apple broke out more numbers because the Apple Watch probably made more in profit than Netflix. And that was a product that was buried as a complete failure by tech pundits, geeks, and the press.
a11595 8y ago
1) there are 130mil people in japan. there are 1.5bil people in India, and they don't have iphones. Most people are poor. Most people are on android - that's a simple fact you can google. 2) there are hundreds. there are at least 25 official main ones (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distributions https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_custom_Android_distrib...). there are also hundreds of code-saavy people baking their own. you can also pick kernels, modem drivers, whatever you want. the point is, when the device vendor stops making patches, your phone still goes on for 10+ years. 3) the OP was talking about video streaming of movies and shows, not "services business." what is it you are not getting here? you actually seem like a paid shill that makes straw men. 4) Android is not privacy invading. There are 10+ versions of Android for my pixel phone alone, without a trace of google stuff. I'm running one of those. The OS that wins is the OS most installed. If a free open source OS is the most installed one it is the winner. If you have a free OS installed on 1mil devices, and a $1 OS installed on 2 devices, it does not mean the $1 OS "wins." I'm almost positive you are a paid shill, but I'm too lazy to check your post history. No one could be so delusional (maybe religious people). Do you believe in Zeus or Jesus by chance, or are against vaccines? If you say yes, I'll understand your reasoning.

bacro 8y ago

2) How come the original Galaxy S "runs fine"? That was a pos! The gps didn't work, the performance was laughable compared to the iphone 4 at the time. How can you say this???

inawarminister 8y ago
GPS didn't work? Was this one of those crippled AT&T or Verizon version (which I only hazily remembers)? I had the international Galaxy S for 2 years (2012-2014) and it was really great... Then again, I was into flashing ROMs every week or so, so perhaps the original TouchWiz performance was that bad?
- bacro 8y ago
  I had the internation Galaxy S as well and never my GPS worked, I say again __NEVER__ even after the Samsung promised fix. Lots and lots of lag when doing anything, the screen was awful with blue tint (it was marketed that amoled was much better than lcd at the time, a f*ing lie), battery was mediocre. Maybe you are talking about Galaxy S 2? I had mine in 2010.
  - inawarminister 8y ago
    Hmm mine was a hands-me-down from my father, and I actually never used a S2 lol Went from Galaxy S to iPhone 4S to Note 2 I think I fixed the GPS by following an instruction in XDA.... I don't remember, its been 5 years already? God I feel old
a11595 8y ago
maybe they had a couple of lemons and you got one. I loaded a new gps driver from xda and gps worked great. when your new iphone wasn't getting a cell tower signal because you were holding it wrong, did you just load a new modem driver? how about the fact that while all the phones were on 3g at the time, the iphone was 2g? my performance was great, and the phone still works fine to this day, with security patches from xda. I use it for travel so if border agents ask questions I don't like coming back in and I respond with graphic descriptions of how their mom takes it in the ass, they can take it away.