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The burger is made primarily from Soy. Soy accounts for 2/3 of global protein feed. Humans eating directly from livestock's primary food source is likely to be
by chefgoldbluum 8y ago
The burger is made primarily from Soy. Soy accounts for 2/3 of global protein feed. Humans eating directly from livestock's primary food source is likely to be much more efficient at a global scale.
- thrillgore 8y agoYour parent is employed by Impossible Foods based on their post history.
- ilikehurdles 8y agoThis appears to be right. It’s a valid disclaimer to note in such a discussion.
- be-ez 8y agoYour right I probably should have disclosed that I previously worked there but it's fairly clear from my post history so I figured it didn't matter. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- Jedd 8y ago> Soy accounts for 2/3 of global protein feed. This may be the current case, but it doesn't, indeed shouldn't, be so. It just happens that in the US, CAFO's are the best (financially) way to raise beef cattle. In any case, livestock's primary food source should never have been soy beans.
- wil421 8y agoWhere did you get soy is the primary food source for cattle? This article recommends no more than 20% soy in cattle’s diet. The article is from last year. [1] >Researchers have found that when the oil content of the ration exceeds 7 percent, it can be toxic to the microbes in the cattle’s rumen and decrease digestibility. Too much oil in cattle rations will lead to scours (diarrhea), cessation of rumen fermentation and, eventually, death. “Because of these limitations, the recommended upper limit of feeding would be about 20 percent of the ration,” Hoppe says. “Practical feeding levels are probably more like 2 to 3 pounds per head per day. At this low rate of supplementation, soybeans provide an excellent source of protein and energy.” [1]https://www.drovers.com/article/soybeans-may-be-viable-cattle-feed-option https://www.drovers.com/article/soybeans-may-be-viable-cattl...
- unclewaltr 8y agoInteresting, this might be why soy is pressed for its oil before being used as cattle feed. The resulting patties are used as feed and the oil byproduct is sold.
- wil421 8y agoI don’t think that’s the case. It is not feasible for a farmer to buy feed during the lifetime of the animal. It’s the reason they have huge pastures for grazing during warm months. During winter they are usually fed hay. All beef is grass fed period. Some are finished at the end with corn or other dense grains (your soy patties). Here’s an article from a Meat Scientist. https://meatscience.org/TheMeatWeEat/topics/raising-animals-for-meat/article/2017/08/24/all-beef-is-grass-fed https://meatscience.org/TheMeatWeEat/topics/raising-animals-...
- z_ 8y agoExcept when the feed is actually sheep.
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- nugget 8y agoSoy contains phytoestrogens which certain populations (e.g. women pregnant with male fetuses) may be advised to reduce intake of or avoid. Something to keep in mind as meat replacements become more popular - that it may not be a one-size-fits-all solution.
- sc4les 8y agoComplete bogus, please abstain from spreading this misinformation. Unlike animal products which contain actual hormones active in humans plant products have an negligible effect and you would have to consume impossible amounts for the smallest of effects. Further, phytoestrogens actually benefit humans
- Rebelgecko 8y ago...you would have to consume impossible amounts for the smallest of effects Further, phytoestrogens actually benefit humans Maybe I'm not parsing things well, but these 2 statements seem contradictory.
- null000 8y agoNot contradictory, but working to different ends. "You shouldn't worry about this because phytoestrogens aren't present" "You shouldn't worry about this because phytoestrogens are beneficial" Both can be true at once, and support the end argument, it's just not particularly helpful or harmful if both are true at the same time.
- devmunchies 8y agoFrom what I understand, the phytoestrogens take the place of real mammalian estrogen, but our bodies don't process it like real estrogen, so its actually good for men who want less estrogen. It acts almost like an estrogen blocker. Whereas drinking cow's milk, for example, is high in estrogen because its from it comes from a large female after giving birth.
- rthomas6 8y agoI mean, that's true with meat, too.
- jbob2000 8y agoIt takes energy to process soya into an edible patty. It does for meat patties as well, so I am curious about the comparison (eg. a soy patty takes x Kw to make, a beef one takes y Kw). Where I think meat has an advantage is that "we" don't need to use energy to make the patty taste good, the cow does that naturally using the feed. But a soy patty needs all sorts of things added to it and we need to use energy and water to actively process it into something edible. If we were just eating the soya beans as we pulled them out of the ground, it would be far more sustainable. But beef tastes great right off the cow! Soya is quite bland.
- spacemanmatt 8y agoYou have to include all the energy that went into feeding the cow over the period of its life.
- mises 8y agoExcept much beef is raised on grass. Some of that isn't even watered. This is effectively solar-based.
- cannonedhamster 8y agoIt's more efficient to ship grain than cattle, and most cattle still requires feed to get to market size. The whole mythos behind cattle drives was to get them to a location for slaughter and shipping. The same exact thing you said about cattle is the same as grains, except cows require more water external to the grass.Cows also require maintenance above what crops typically do as well. Ranchers are very good at what they do, however it's still a ton of work. Farming is slowly becoming significantly more automated, which is a good thing as less people are interested in becoming farmers.