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Gov. Gavin Newsom proposes healthcare mandate, Medi-Cal expansion
- sigfubar 8y agoBe wary of any healthcare mandate: it’s a device by which major health insurance carriers compel already poor people to sink money into overpriced plans that cover very little and come with numerous strings attached. Between high deductibles and mandatory coinsurance these plans are not coverage: they’re extortion.
- sabujp 8y agoit's supposed to be single payer, i.e. govt owned and negotiated rates should be lower than something like obamacare exchanges
- AnimalMuppet 8y agoShould be. Obamacare was supposed to "bend the cost curve", too. I haven't seen recent hard data, but my impression is that it didn't work as advertised. Note well: I have no opinion on whether this idea will in fact work. I'm merely pointing out that one should not take politicians' claims on such matters at face value.
- zepto 8y agoIf it actually is single a real single payer system, then maybe this is fine, but it’s just as likely that the mandate gets established, but the single payer part fails to materialize.
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- aliston 8y agoWhy should California tax payers provide health insurance to illegal immigrants?
- sabujp 8y agobecause they provide services that you rely on and do jobs that legal migrants and citizens aren't going to do
- danablast 8y agoMaybe if we could pay citizens fair market price for their labor we wouldn't have to rely on illegal immigrants.
- sabujp 8y agohow many citizens and legal migrants do you know are going to work in backbreaking conditions picking the food you eat for minimum wage? Cheap robots haven't caught up yet to pick and grow everything we need. Also note that not everyone can pay whole food prices
- mdorazio 8y agoIf they got paid a living wage to do it with reasonable hours? A huge number. Would that mean food would get more expensive? Yes. Is that a bad thing? No.
- oh_sigh 8y agoOP said "market price for their labor", not minimum wage. If there is no one willing to do the labor for minimum wage, then minimum wage is not the market price for that labor. When you can't afford to pay necessary labor costs for a product, the answer isn't to go to the black market.
- danablast 8y agoThank God for those illegal immigrants. Without them we would all have starved I guess.
- koolba 8y agoI’ve thought about this quite a bit. California min wage is $11/hour. Let’s say that the market rate for legal worker labor that’s going to work the fields is double that, that still seems like it’d be affordable. It’s not like labor is 100% of the cost of produce. There’s seed, fertilizer, packaging, transport. I’d be surprised if labor was even 25% of the wholesale cost. Yes it’d be more expensive but I don’t think it’d be prohibitively so.
- danablast 8y agoThere goes California's balanced budget.
- lykr0n 8y agoIf you redirect the money both employees and employeers spend on healthcare- not necessarily.
- mmanfrin 8y agoIt's $250mil. CA is not gonna hurt from this in the slightest.
- danablast 8y agoWith all the other things they're cramming into the budget don't get ahead of yourself. California has a habit of overspending when revenue is up. We'll be in red again under Gavin.
- coolspot 8y ago> "California already covers undocumented children until they turn 19, with Newsom’s plan increasing the age cut-off to mirror that of the Affordable Care Act, which allows young adults to stay on a parent’s health insurance plan until turning 26."
- throwawayunodos 8y agoThank you Gov. Gavin Newsom for making CA even more attractive to illegal aliens.