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> most widespread linux distribution for one of the two most widespread GPU producers in the market That's still less than a percent of the market I think. May

> most widespread linux distribution for one of the two most widespread GPU producers in the market That's still less than a percent of the market I think. Maybe shave off another order of magnitude. So the economic argument is not the one to make. However, it sucks nonetheless.

zanny 8y ago
Its still probably hundreds of thousands of users. I hate arguments about "but Linux is only a fraction of the market!" because the total OS / browser usage market is in the billions of people. Even small fractions of that pie could found their own countries and be of reasonable size for a nation.
- bobthepanda 8y ago
  If the market share were compelling enough, couldn’t some other maintainer step up and do this work? OSS doesn’t necessarily mean support for everything under the sun at all costs; Chromium may be open source but that doesn’t mean they have carte blanche from Google to test every possible combination of distro and GPU.
  - lstodd 8y ago
    Why should those would-be maintaners help Google? There's always Firefox to fix.
    - murderfs 8y ago
      Firefox disables GPU acceleration on Linux entirely, largely for the same reasons.
      - makomk 8y ago
        I'm pretty sure Mozilla just don't care about Linux these days. It's been getting steadily worse, and 64.0 is almost unusable for me due to a bug that has nothing to do with graphics which hangs the whole thing for minutes at a time.
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  - zanny 8y ago
    This kind of problem specifically doesn't map to "user finds problem, puts money where mouth is on bug bounty to fix it" because actually figuring out your Blink based browser isn't hardware accelerated is at least a nontrivial task most won't even realize until they go "oh wow whys it so much faster on Windows?" and then not even know where to start looking to find out why.
- bubblethink 8y ago
  >found their own countries and be of reasonable size for a nation. Honestly, you could fill up the number of people using nouveau with chromium in a stadium more likely. From the small pie of linux users, you drill down to nvidia, and then further down to nouveau. All laptop users, even with nvidia cards, will only use the intel gpu unless they explicitly enable the discrete mode and not install the nvidia drivers. Desktop users obviously only buy nvidia if they want to use the binary driver. What do you think remains of the pie ? I haven't met a single person in real life who uses this stack. I love nouveau. That doesn't change the numbers though.
  - Aeolun 8y ago
    Then of those people, there is a fraction that uses the Nvidea cards that are impacted, and an even smaller number of uses will run into issues. To save those users from themselves, Google now disabled GPU accelleration for all Ubuntu users. Seems like a bit silly to me.
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zanny 8y ago

Its still probably hundreds of thousands of users. I hate arguments about "but Linux is only a fraction of the market!" because the total OS / browser usage market is in the billions of people. Even small fractions of that pie could found their own countries and be of reasonable size for a nation.

bobthepanda 8y ago
If the market share were compelling enough, couldn’t some other maintainer step up and do this work? OSS doesn’t necessarily mean support for everything under the sun at all costs; Chromium may be open source but that doesn’t mean they have carte blanche from Google to test every possible combination of distro and GPU.
- lstodd 8y ago
  Why should those would-be maintaners help Google? There's always Firefox to fix.
  - murderfs 8y ago
    Firefox disables GPU acceleration on Linux entirely, largely for the same reasons.
    - makomk 8y ago
      I'm pretty sure Mozilla just don't care about Linux these days. It's been getting steadily worse, and 64.0 is almost unusable for me due to a bug that has nothing to do with graphics which hangs the whole thing for minutes at a time.
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- zanny 8y ago
  This kind of problem specifically doesn't map to "user finds problem, puts money where mouth is on bug bounty to fix it" because actually figuring out your Blink based browser isn't hardware accelerated is at least a nontrivial task most won't even realize until they go "oh wow whys it so much faster on Windows?" and then not even know where to start looking to find out why.
bubblethink 8y ago
>found their own countries and be of reasonable size for a nation. Honestly, you could fill up the number of people using nouveau with chromium in a stadium more likely. From the small pie of linux users, you drill down to nvidia, and then further down to nouveau. All laptop users, even with nvidia cards, will only use the intel gpu unless they explicitly enable the discrete mode and not install the nvidia drivers. Desktop users obviously only buy nvidia if they want to use the binary driver. What do you think remains of the pie ? I haven't met a single person in real life who uses this stack. I love nouveau. That doesn't change the numbers though.
- Aeolun 8y ago
  Then of those people, there is a fraction that uses the Nvidea cards that are impacted, and an even smaller number of uses will run into issues. To save those users from themselves, Google now disabled GPU accelleration for all Ubuntu users. Seems like a bit silly to me.

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