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If the overwhelming majority of drivers want to drive more than 35mph on the road than slapping a 35 or below sign on it is not going to have any meaningful eff
by dsfyu404ed 8y ago
If the overwhelming majority of drivers want to drive more than 35mph on the road than slapping a 35 or below sign on it is not going to have any meaningful effect unless you back it up with the kind of strict law enforcement that is incompatible with American ideals.
Edit: And as I said in the my other comment, if you want people to go slow you need road features that will make them want to go slow on their own. Speed bumps are far more of an insulting road feature than bushes or something to make the road feel narrow because they basically say "this road is capable of X but we're going to make you go Y and you can't do anything about it" which is why people are complaining. If you want people to go slow toss in a raised median and raised curbs to make the road feel narrow.
- skywhopper 8y agoYeah, that's what traffic calming measures such as raised crosswalks are for...
- arthurdenture 8y agoNo, if the majority of drivers want to drive faster than 35mph, the road is badly designed. It needs traffic calming devices, such as narrower lanes, curb extensions, and, yes, raised crosswalks. Enforcement (including automated enforcement) is a useful tool, but the start should be designing the road so that drivers naturally go at a safe speed.
- derefr 8y agoNo, but that's why we're not talking about a sign, but a raised crosswalk (i.e. a speedbump.) If you're going over 35mph, your car will scrape against it and possibly catch air off it, and you'll quite quickly regret going over 35mph and probably not do it again on that stretch of road.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoOr you might be dead or your car might be wrecked. When I was very young and very dumb, I did ~45 over a railroad track with a raised crossing. I landed OK, but it was a pretty scary experience. Edit: some people seem to think that I'm against speed bumps to protect pedestrians because of my experience. I'm not really, I was just explaining my experience from when I was an idiot in how these bumps take speed. Sorry for the misunderstanding.
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- village-idiot 8y agoFar more pedestrians are hurt and killed by vehicles than drivers are hurt by speed bumps. As someone who both drives and walks, I believe it is 100% acceptable to trash a few people’s cars (who ignored the speed limit) to reduce pedestrian fatalities.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoPlease don't assume I think this is a bad idea. I was just explaining the consequences of speeding over a bump like that, I'm completely pro speed bump as a way of slowing down traffic. Just that we can be idiots when we are kids.
- tom_ 8y agoIf the car is wrecked, this will definitely discourage the driver from doing it again. If the driver dies, I put it to you that it was only a matter of time, whether there was a raised crossing in this place or not. This sort of careless driving is vanishingly rarely a one-off, and almost always an example of a pattern of behaviour. Let us hope that they didn't take anybody else with them.
- seanmcdirmid 8y agoIt was a one off for me! When you are 15 years old with a drivers license, you are learning lots of things for the first and last time. For example, I quickly learned about hydroplaning during a heavy rain storm.
- barrkel 8y agoBetter a careless driver dead than an innocent pedestrian on a designated crossing.
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