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if they're trying to monopolize psilocybin, they probably should have chosen something that isn't replicable by a teenager with access to a pressure cooker and
by nyolfen 8y ago
if they're trying to monopolize psilocybin, they probably should have chosen something that isn't replicable by a teenager with access to a pressure cooker and a pasture
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- seandoe 8y agoYou mean pressure cooker and closet.
- atomical 8y agoIf psilocybin has some success in early clinical trials then companies will begin work on metabolites and similar compounds that purportedly have less side effects. That is what is happening with Ketamine right now.
- ada1981 8y agoWhat people seem to miss is that it’s the psychedelic experience itself that holds the healing potential. We most likely won’t see a pill derived from mushrooms that cures depression but doesn’t get you high. The altered state of conciousness is the thing.
- johnwyles 8y agoI'm not saying you're wrong per se but what evidence do you have that there are no beneficial analogs and triggers for similar biochemical pathways that perhaps are not marked by a substantial or profound classically psychedelic experience?
- thatcat 8y agoIt's much harder to prove a negative. What evidence do you have that there are? If you consider the way these drugs must be administered to be effective - with a co requisite therapy session - it seems obvious that the conscious effects are the beneficial ones.
- neom 8y agoThere is sufficient evidence for both, and there is probably good reason to split them out (body and mind) and see them as different things that also work combined (body + mind). In this you might compare something like kambo to ayahuasca and ibogaine. They have many similar effects but have different ways of getting there (some more physical some more spiritual ,Kambo is probably not going to help with your childhood abuse, but it may help your high blood pressure, ayahuasca may help you process your childhood abuse and as a result lower your blood pressure.) If you look at something like 2cb vs lsd, lsd is found to be considerably more productive/creative than 2cb at subthreshold doses, but people often experience a much better "therapy trip" on high dose 2cb. Some great books are: The Psychedelic Explorer's Guide- James Fadiman Acid Test - LSD, Ecstasy, and the Power to Heal - Tom Shroder Sacred Knowledge - Psychedelics and Religious Experiences - William Richards