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BMW's average selling price is about $55K, but Tesla's Model 3 sold in the high $30s to low $40s when the federal tax credit is included. States like Californi

by 7e 8y ago

BMW's average selling price is about $55K, but Tesla's Model 3 sold in the high $30s to low $40s when the federal tax credit is included. States like California offer additional discounts.

fellowniusmonk 8y ago
Where are you seeing that? ASP info I could can find shows 59k. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/23/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-asp-59300-surveys-find/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/23/tesla-model-3-average-s...
7e 8y ago
Further, the author compares Tesla's global delivery numbers with other manufacturers' US-only numbers, and doesn't explicitly mention that the expiring tax credit temporarily pulled demand forward this quarter.
- jryle70 8y ago
  So maybe BMW is more profitable or pulls in more revenue than Tesla in the US, or maybe not. Also, Model 3 has only been delivered to US and Canada's customers, and only expanded to Europe very recently. But the point remains, Tesla is "now America's Number One Premium Automotive Company"? Whether that will be true next quarter remains to be seen. Not sure what you're trying to dispute? Also true that tax credit expiration played a part. Do you think BMW or Lexus didn't have any promotion this past quarter?
  - 7e 8y ago
    Tesla doesn't release US-only numbers, so the article is factually incorrect, and thus its conclusion is also incorrect. See https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/contrary-to-musk-s-tweet-tesla-isn-t-the-no-1-premium-carmaker https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/contrary-....
    - burgerboy 8y ago
      Can't have any good news about Tesla on hacker news no no no
- dmode 8y ago
  Model 3 delivery is 100% North American though
  - 7e 8y ago
    S and X are sold worldwide, and the 3 is sold in Canada.
dmode 8y ago
Citation needed for both of your claims. The latest I found is that the average Model 3 selling price is 60k, which would become 50k at best with tax credits. Right in line with your BMW number [1] [1] https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-hit-60000/ https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-hi...
- mdeeks 8y ago
  I went on the Tesla website and configured one for $44k just now. It only takes a few seconds. This doesn’t include the rebates or gas savings either.
- 7e 8y ago
  Your data is out of date. On tesla.com it is impossible to configure a non-performance version of the car which comes anywhere near $60K. They stopped selling "full self driving" and there have been other pricing tweaks, including a $44K version. See Troy's Teslike spreadsheet for a sample of the order breakdown among the super enthusiasts.

by 7e 8y ago

BMW's average selling price is about $55K, but Tesla's Model 3 sold in the high $30s to low $40s when the federal tax credit is included. States like California offer additional discounts.

fellowniusmonk 8y ago

Where are you seeing that? ASP info I could can find shows 59k. https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/23/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-asp-59300-surveys-find/ https://cleantechnica.com/2018/08/23/tesla-model-3-average-s...

7e 8y ago

Further, the author compares Tesla's global delivery numbers with other manufacturers' US-only numbers, and doesn't explicitly mention that the expiring tax credit temporarily pulled demand forward this quarter.

jryle70 8y ago
So maybe BMW is more profitable or pulls in more revenue than Tesla in the US, or maybe not. Also, Model 3 has only been delivered to US and Canada's customers, and only expanded to Europe very recently. But the point remains, Tesla is "now America's Number One Premium Automotive Company"? Whether that will be true next quarter remains to be seen. Not sure what you're trying to dispute? Also true that tax credit expiration played a part. Do you think BMW or Lexus didn't have any promotion this past quarter?
- 7e 8y ago
  Tesla doesn't release US-only numbers, so the article is factually incorrect, and thus its conclusion is also incorrect. See https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/contrary-to-musk-s-tweet-tesla-isn-t-the-no-1-premium-carmaker https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2019-01-04/contrary-....
  - burgerboy 8y ago
    Can't have any good news about Tesla on hacker news no no no
dmode 8y ago
Model 3 delivery is 100% North American though
- 7e 8y ago
  S and X are sold worldwide, and the 3 is sold in Canada.

dmode 8y ago

Citation needed for both of your claims. The latest I found is that the average Model 3 selling price is 60k, which would become 50k at best with tax credits. Right in line with your BMW number [1] [1] https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-hit-60000/ https://insideevs.com/tesla-model-3-average-selling-price-hi...

mdeeks 8y ago
I went on the Tesla website and configured one for $44k just now. It only takes a few seconds. This doesn’t include the rebates or gas savings either.
7e 8y ago
Your data is out of date. On tesla.com it is impossible to configure a non-performance version of the car which comes anywhere near $60K. They stopped selling "full self driving" and there have been other pricing tweaks, including a $44K version. See Troy's Teslike spreadsheet for a sample of the order breakdown among the super enthusiasts.