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The price is often reduced by your carrier or obscured by no interest payments included in your cell bill. And those $300 phones don't have a mind-blowing came

The price is often reduced by your carrier or obscured by no interest payments included in your cell bill. And those $300 phones don't have a mind-blowing camera, but the latest gen flagships phones finally do. That, plus the fact that phones become obsolete much more slowly now, makes those $1k phones a worthwhile investment to me.

basejumping 8y ago
The s7 has a great camera
tyfon 8y ago
Maybe not $300 but I can get a sony xperia xz2 compact for 3000 NOK ($345ish). Sony makes the cameras in many other phones including iphone. I have the larger version, but my wife has this and it takes excellent photos.
- threeseed 8y ago
  Sony makes the camera sensor. The lens comes from another supplier. And as the Pixel 3 has shown the software makes far more of a difference to the quality of the photo then the hardware.
  - zapzupnz 8y ago
    And in the case of iPhone, the software takes advantage of custom-made, powerful, performant, and yet efficient chips that would make snapping photos take forever on older or non-specialised chips. Software and hardware dance together on iOS.
    - izacus 8y ago
      Now you just need to persuade people that paying 500$+ more to get a tiny little less delay after capturing a photo is worth it to people. Since Apple seems to be failing at that.
      - zapzupnz 8y ago
        In what way does it seem that Apple is failing at that? Are you saying iPhone sales have just completely slumped? That's not what the data is saying. Apple and other phone makers set the benchmark years ago, people don't seem too interested in going back. Even when they're buying non-Apple phones, they're buying other companies' flagships: Samsung, LG, Huawei, Xiaomi. Those phones are no slouches either.
  - dingaling 8y ago
    > The lens comes from another supplier. The physical focal length of a phone lens is about 3 to 4.5mm. There's not a lot of light-physics you cam do in that much space. Even a cheap point-and-shoot fixed-lens camera will be superior and will cost much less than the phone upgrade increment.

basejumping 8y ago

The s7 has a great camera

tyfon 8y ago

Maybe not $300 but I can get a sony xperia xz2 compact for 3000 NOK ($345ish). Sony makes the cameras in many other phones including iphone. I have the larger version, but my wife has this and it takes excellent photos.

threeseed 8y ago
Sony makes the camera sensor. The lens comes from another supplier. And as the Pixel 3 has shown the software makes far more of a difference to the quality of the photo then the hardware.
- zapzupnz 8y ago
  And in the case of iPhone, the software takes advantage of custom-made, powerful, performant, and yet efficient chips that would make snapping photos take forever on older or non-specialised chips. Software and hardware dance together on iOS.
  - izacus 8y ago
    Now you just need to persuade people that paying 500$+ more to get a tiny little less delay after capturing a photo is worth it to people. Since Apple seems to be failing at that.
    - zapzupnz 8y ago
      In what way does it seem that Apple is failing at that? Are you saying iPhone sales have just completely slumped? That's not what the data is saying. Apple and other phone makers set the benchmark years ago, people don't seem too interested in going back. Even when they're buying non-Apple phones, they're buying other companies' flagships: Samsung, LG, Huawei, Xiaomi. Those phones are no slouches either.
- dingaling 8y ago
  > The lens comes from another supplier. The physical focal length of a phone lens is about 3 to 4.5mm. There's not a lot of light-physics you cam do in that much space. Even a cheap point-and-shoot fixed-lens camera will be superior and will cost much less than the phone upgrade increment.