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Another thing is the pre 2017 car-pool stickers for electric cars are expiring in the bay area. The newer stickers have income caps of $150k (single filing) or

by pkaye 8y ago

Another thing is the pre 2017 car-pool stickers for electric cars are expiring in the bay area. The newer stickers have income caps of $150k (single filing) or $300k (joint filing). I wonder what the impact will be on Tesla? The first change helps them but the second hurts them.

saagarjha 8y ago
Wait, what? I was not aware of this. I guess driving in the carpool lane today was not a great idea…
- eclipxe 8y ago
  OP is incorrect.
  - saagarjha 8y ago
    Do you have more information about this change, or lack thereof?
    - popcorn49 8y ago
      https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/11/223654-solo-drivers-to-lose-carpool-stickers/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/11/223654-solo-drivers-t...
    - loosescrews 8y ago
      Green and white decals expired January 1st, 2019. Red decals, which were first issued in 2018, are still valid. Vehicles which were first issued decals in 2017 are eligible to upgrade to red decals. The current decals being issued are purple, but it is unclear if they are only for vehicles being issued decals for the first time or if they can be issued for upgrades requested now. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal
- pkaye 8y ago
  Looks like my understanding was not entirely correct but there is an income cap for the rebate. And clean air vehicles older than 2017 will lose car pool lane access. They change the sticker color to help identify.
tw04 8y ago
Did they give any justification for the change? It makes absolutely no sense to me why you'd put an income cap on that - don't you wan to encourage EVERYONE to burn less fossil fuels, REGARDLESS of income?
- eclipxe 8y ago
  The OP is incorrect, there is no income cap on carpool stickers.
- drenvuk 8y ago
  What the GP posted is a bit misleading, you either get the rebate or the carpool lane stickers if you're over the cap but not both. It does suck but I think it's for the best. The hov lane in norcal is becoming relatively crowded lately since electric cars were a rarity before but not so much now.
  - rconti 8y ago
    They've been crowded at least since the yellow sticker 'Prius' program of, what, 2007?
    - drenvuk 8y ago
      I wouldn't know. I'm part of the new blood that came to the bay area after that to ruin everything. :)
      - rconti 8y ago
        You got your stories wrong, the new blood is ruining Portland and Seattle, where they hate outsiders (as long as they carefully avoid having a racial component to this complaint).
- gamblor956 8y ago
  Why should everyone else pay for the rich to get a tax break and free usage of HOV lanes? They're the ones who can most afford to pay for those things, and the ones most likely to want to buy a vehicle for bragging rights.
sxates 8y ago
According the to CARB website [1], the income cap only applies to the state EV rebate, not the carpool stickers. [1] https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal
eclipxe 8y ago
You are incorrect. The income cap is just for the CVRP rebate. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_...

by pkaye 8y ago

saagarjha 8y ago

Wait, what? I was not aware of this. I guess driving in the carpool lane today was not a great idea…

eclipxe 8y ago
OP is incorrect.
- saagarjha 8y ago
  Do you have more information about this change, or lack thereof?
  - popcorn49 8y ago
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/11/223654-solo-drivers-to-lose-carpool-stickers/ https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/09/11/223654-solo-drivers-t...
  - loosescrews 8y ago
    Green and white decals expired January 1st, 2019. Red decals, which were first issued in 2018, are still valid. Vehicles which were first issued decals in 2017 are eligible to upgrade to red decals. The current decals being issued are purple, but it is unclear if they are only for vehicles being issued decals for the first time or if they can be issued for upgrades requested now. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal
pkaye 8y ago
Looks like my understanding was not entirely correct but there is an income cap for the rebate. And clean air vehicles older than 2017 will lose car pool lane access. They change the sticker color to help identify.

tw04 8y ago

Did they give any justification for the change? It makes absolutely no sense to me why you'd put an income cap on that - don't you wan to encourage EVERYONE to burn less fossil fuels, REGARDLESS of income?

eclipxe 8y ago
The OP is incorrect, there is no income cap on carpool stickers.
drenvuk 8y ago
What the GP posted is a bit misleading, you either get the rebate or the carpool lane stickers if you're over the cap but not both. It does suck but I think it's for the best. The hov lane in norcal is becoming relatively crowded lately since electric cars were a rarity before but not so much now.
- rconti 8y ago
  They've been crowded at least since the yellow sticker 'Prius' program of, what, 2007?
  - drenvuk 8y ago
    I wouldn't know. I'm part of the new blood that came to the bay area after that to ruin everything. :)
    - rconti 8y ago
      You got your stories wrong, the new blood is ruining Portland and Seattle, where they hate outsiders (as long as they carefully avoid having a racial component to this complaint).
gamblor956 8y ago
Why should everyone else pay for the rich to get a tax break and free usage of HOV lanes? They're the ones who can most afford to pay for those things, and the ones most likely to want to buy a vehicle for bragging rights.

sxates 8y ago

According the to CARB website [1], the income cap only applies to the state EV rebate, not the carpool stickers. [1] https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/detail/vr/decal

eclipxe 8y ago

You are incorrect. The income cap is just for the CVRP rebate. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/vr/decal https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_...