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Thing is, the salaries are supposedly competitive and engineers don't really complain about it. We had two raises and a round of promotions in less than a year,

Thing is, the salaries are supposedly competitive and engineers don't really complain about it. We had two raises and a round of promotions in less than a year, and people keep leaving.

thiago_fm 8y ago
If this was true, people wouldn't be leaving. https://study.com/academy/lesson/herzbergs-two-factor-theory-hygiene-factors-motivation.html https://study.com/academy/lesson/herzbergs-two-factor-theory... Please look here. It is funny you talk about being a MANAGER, I see a problem in hygiene(not the physical one) on your company. Give it a read on hygiene factors, know it well. Check if you are providing them. That is always the reason people leave in hordes. It is that simple. To be honest, if a company was really paying good salaries, as you claim, respected people(working time/conditions), I would only leave if the management were clowns. Are you one? I mean. I'm doing more management now and I know how people in management are afraid to seek into their own mistakes and defects and stick to saying like "Everything we do is great! I have no idea why we aren't successful", as doing that takes much less effort and courage than stepping up, finding out problems and really thinking through. People here in HN have commented a lot of things, but you really negate basic things, such as salary. "salary is competitive", that doesn't mean anything... Most of the companies are competitive, if they are willing to give me a similar salary to avoid all the problems your company currently has, which you even affirmed, why would I still work for your company(and fix its problems) if you wouldn't pay me _above_ the market? If you gave 2 raises in a year and can't say "we're paying like FAANG or above the market", barely "compatitive", it means your company 1 year ago was underpaying people and that, like a virus, has spread discontent in people. Those things are cancerous, even after they are gone, there is still the trauma. People don't like being underpaid, they feel like losers. That's why they move to other companies, even if you fix the problem.

Thing is, the salaries are supposedly competitive and engineers don't really complain about it. We had two raises and a round of promotions in less than a year, and people keep leaving.

thiago_fm 8y ago

If this was true, people wouldn't be leaving. https://study.com/academy/lesson/herzbergs-two-factor-theory-hygiene-factors-motivation.html https://study.com/academy/lesson/herzbergs-two-factor-theory... Please look here. It is funny you talk about being a MANAGER, I see a problem in hygiene(not the physical one) on your company. Give it a read on hygiene factors, know it well. Check if you are providing them. That is always the reason people leave in hordes. It is that simple. To be honest, if a company was really paying good salaries, as you claim, respected people(working time/conditions), I would only leave if the management were clowns. Are you one? I mean. I'm doing more management now and I know how people in management are afraid to seek into their own mistakes and defects and stick to saying like "Everything we do is great! I have no idea why we aren't successful", as doing that takes much less effort and courage than stepping up, finding out problems and really thinking through. People here in HN have commented a lot of things, but you really negate basic things, such as salary. "salary is competitive", that doesn't mean anything... Most of the companies are competitive, if they are willing to give me a similar salary to avoid all the problems your company currently has, which you even affirmed, why would I still work for your company(and fix its problems) if you wouldn't pay me _above_ the market? If you gave 2 raises in a year and can't say "we're paying like FAANG or above the market", barely "compatitive", it means your company 1 year ago was underpaying people and that, like a virus, has spread discontent in people. Those things are cancerous, even after they are gone, there is still the trauma. People don't like being underpaid, they feel like losers. That's why they move to other companies, even if you fix the problem.