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I would pay to use Google. Especially if it meant they would remove the tracker from out of my ass.

harry8 8y ago
Pay me and I'll lie to you about what Google will do if that's what will make you happy. No sillier than paying Google given their credibility is zero and there are so consequences to them for lying.
- judge2020 8y ago
  What are you referring to? I can't think of one incident where Google straight lied to the customer about what they do. They also remove tracking and ads from certain partner websites if you do decide to pay for it: https://contributor.google.com/v/beta https://contributor.google.com/v/beta
  - harry8 8y ago
    Do you really, honestly, truly believe they don't track you if you pay them not to? Genuine question.
    - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
      Um, yeah, I do, unless there's evidence to the contrary. Do you really honestly truly believe Google is outright lying?
      - harry8 8y ago
        Absolutely.
zozbot123 8y ago
I wouldn't. Google search is garbage these days (if only because it's pretty much a monoculture, and that leads to SEO arms races) and their other services can easily be replaced by paid equivalents that are far less likely to be a single point of failure.
- judge2020 8y ago
  > other services can easily be replaced I agree with you regarding services that are entirely technology-based (GDocs, Drive, etc.) but so much of Google is the definition of a monopoly (in the sense of "hard to enter the market"): - You can't replace Gmail without keeping your Google account open so that any old emails get forwarded to your new address (although this is a problem with any old mail server) - Google Maps is by far the most dominant maps service, besides Apple Maps (but only on iOS) and I don't see OpenStreetMap implementing turn-by-turn directions. - Youtube content creators already have dedicated fanbases on Youtube, and the vast majority of those subscribers don't care enough about the content creator to download another app just to watch their content. Also: > easily be replaced by paid equivalents There's a reason Google is so big right now: everything is free. If you had to pay for any of Google's services I can guarantee they would have a small fraction of the usage they do today.
  - zozbot123 8y ago
    > don't care enough about the content creator to download another app just to watch their content. The HTML5 video tag exists - you don't need "another app", though you might need another video host. There's very little inherent difference between YT and any other popular, large site. They host videos? Video is not that much more bulky than other website content anyway. (At least if you avoid gold-plating the service with 720p, 1080p, even 4K video streaming, which is just silly when the "content" is some cats doing whatever.) Websites come and go. (And of course OSM data can be used to provide turn-by-turn routes, even with on-device processing. What makes you assume that this is not a thing?)
    - rock_hard 8y ago
      This is such bullshit! YouTube’s video streaming infra is a masterpiece of engineering and magnitudes of order better than a vanilla streaming setup! You might not notice because you live in a place with great internet...but most people don’t!
      - 8y ago

Pay me and I'll lie to you about what Google will do if that's what will make you happy. No sillier than paying Google given their credibility is zero and there are so consequences to them for lying.

judge2020 8y ago
What are you referring to? I can't think of one incident where Google straight lied to the customer about what they do. They also remove tracking and ads from certain partner websites if you do decide to pay for it: https://contributor.google.com/v/beta https://contributor.google.com/v/beta
- harry8 8y ago
  Do you really, honestly, truly believe they don't track you if you pay them not to? Genuine question.
  - Wowfunhappy 8y ago
    Um, yeah, I do, unless there's evidence to the contrary. Do you really honestly truly believe Google is outright lying?
    - harry8 8y ago
      Absolutely.

zozbot123 8y ago

I wouldn't. Google search is garbage these days (if only because it's pretty much a monoculture, and that leads to SEO arms races) and their other services can easily be replaced by paid equivalents that are far less likely to be a single point of failure.

judge2020 8y ago
> other services can easily be replaced I agree with you regarding services that are entirely technology-based (GDocs, Drive, etc.) but so much of Google is the definition of a monopoly (in the sense of "hard to enter the market"): - You can't replace Gmail without keeping your Google account open so that any old emails get forwarded to your new address (although this is a problem with any old mail server) - Google Maps is by far the most dominant maps service, besides Apple Maps (but only on iOS) and I don't see OpenStreetMap implementing turn-by-turn directions. - Youtube content creators already have dedicated fanbases on Youtube, and the vast majority of those subscribers don't care enough about the content creator to download another app just to watch their content. Also: > easily be replaced by paid equivalents There's a reason Google is so big right now: everything is free. If you had to pay for any of Google's services I can guarantee they would have a small fraction of the usage they do today.
- zozbot123 8y ago
  > don't care enough about the content creator to download another app just to watch their content. The HTML5 video tag exists - you don't need "another app", though you might need another video host. There's very little inherent difference between YT and any other popular, large site. They host videos? Video is not that much more bulky than other website content anyway. (At least if you avoid gold-plating the service with 720p, 1080p, even 4K video streaming, which is just silly when the "content" is some cats doing whatever.) Websites come and go. (And of course OSM data can be used to provide turn-by-turn routes, even with on-device processing. What makes you assume that this is not a thing?)
  - rock_hard 8y ago
    This is such bullshit! YouTube’s video streaming infra is a masterpiece of engineering and magnitudes of order better than a vanilla streaming setup! You might not notice because you live in a place with great internet...but most people don’t!
    - 8y ago