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$100k in equipment, but I bet none of that went to an oscilloscope to actually quantify the problems they are imagining.

by remcob 8y ago

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raverbashing 8y ago
Audiophiles in a nutshell
AndrewUnmuted 8y ago
I bet you some of those dollars went towards the acquisition of some Brilliant Pebbles [0]! [0] http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm
- gpderetta 8y ago
  This must be satire, right?
  - api 8y ago
    There is no stupidity limit. Research flat Earth!
    - gerdesj 8y ago
      Actually it is quite fun to do thought experiments on what a flat earth would be like. I think (not a physicist) that the sea and atmosphere would end up dome shaped, centred on the centre of the disc. Non symmetric continents would cause instability so can't exist. I wonder what is on the other side? For even more fun why not (re)read Sir Terry's oeuvre. Pissing yourself laughing is good for you.
    - Rjevski 8y ago
      I'm not sure what's worse. From my limited observation of flat-earthers on YouTube, they at least seem to be willing to do measurements but then either misinterpret the results (due to lack of knowledge) or knowingly twist them to say what they want to say. Audiophiles on the other hand seem to reject the whole idea of taking measurements.
  - userbinator 8y ago
    I wish it was all an elaborate joke, but unfortunately it's not. The rest of that site is just as perplexing and appears to cater to the same sort of people who believe in psychics. Here's one example: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm
    - tlrobinson 8y ago
      Wow, and I thought "audiophile" SATA cables were the dumbest audiophile gear you could buy https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/ https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/
      - the8472 8y ago
        I see your 350€ sata cable and raise you a 7k£ ethernet cable. https://i.imgur.com/zFdITcQ.png https://i.imgur.com/zFdITcQ.png And if you are interested I also have a scattering-free, anti-jitter bridge to sell https://i.imgur.com/JrcKtyx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JrcKtyx.jpg
  - walrus01 8y ago
    sadly, no, there is a $10,000 1000BaseT ethernet cable that is a real product. Never underestimate the gullibility of a certain segment of the population.
- twic 8y ago
  And hopefully not the other Brilliant Pebbles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles
gerdesj 8y ago
Quite. Why not also test your hearing first. Find a lab and offer them some serious money to test your "built in" equipment. Then you can get serious on delivering the best possible input. While you are at it, you'd better hire a decent studio and the artists, sound engineers etc and re-record to your spec. Recordings are normally designed to work reasonably well across anything from a car stereo to a disco. Now crack out your oscilloscope and work away at the environment, which is what gets in between your input and ears. If you were really serious then why not buy a small plot of land well away from the city and build a custom man cave (yes it will be a man!) Oh and don't forget to get your FLACs recorded in 32 bit - you'll need all those extra bits to be able to treat your golden ears properly 8)
- dylan604 8y ago
  >If you were really serious then why not buy a small plot of land well away from the city and build a custom man cave (yes it will be a man!) This is my dream retirement concept, except mine would be to continue taking pictures of the night sky. But thanks for the idea. Now I can plan on listening to high quality choons while I'm at it!
  - gerdesj 8y ago
    Make sure you don't listen to anything louder than a cockroach farting: the vibrations will disturb your £300k gear. Perhaps you can find some sort of device to deliver the choons close to your ears to avoid problems. No obviously not, you will need heavy plant and a lot of conc. to start off the job. Then there will be the stabilisation and damping systems ... and ... and ...
timrichard 8y ago
...and in most of the photos of their listening rooms, no acoustic treatment. Even a bit would make quite a noticeable difference for a few hundred bucks (or less, DIY). Zero difference would be 'running in cables', and other things they read about on forums.
- judgardner 8y ago
  Yeah the lack of acoustic treatment is a running thing I see. A few absorbing panels at primary reflection points coupled with diffusers should be the next upgrade on a midrange system. Bass traps as well depending on your sub and music.
mikeash 8y ago
If they quantified stuff, they wouldn’t be an audiophile.
lukeschlather 8y ago
One of the guys in the article actually did have someone use an oscilloscope to measure the interference from his neighbor's appliances.
naikrovek 8y ago
Even if it did, the results would be questioned, and ultimately ignored. There is no rationalizing with an audiophool.

$100k in equipment, but I bet none of that went to an oscilloscope to actually quantify the problems they are imagining.

by remcob 8y ago

$100k in equipment, but I bet none of that went to an oscilloscope to actually quantify the problems they are imagining.

deleted 8y ago

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raverbashing 8y ago

Audiophiles in a nutshell

AndrewUnmuted 8y ago

I bet you some of those dollars went towards the acquisition of some Brilliant Pebbles [0]! [0] http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina31.htm

gpderetta 8y ago
This must be satire, right?
- api 8y ago
  There is no stupidity limit. Research flat Earth!
  - gerdesj 8y ago
    Actually it is quite fun to do thought experiments on what a flat earth would be like. I think (not a physicist) that the sea and atmosphere would end up dome shaped, centred on the centre of the disc. Non symmetric continents would cause instability so can't exist. I wonder what is on the other side? For even more fun why not (re)read Sir Terry's oeuvre. Pissing yourself laughing is good for you.
  - Rjevski 8y ago
    I'm not sure what's worse. From my limited observation of flat-earthers on YouTube, they at least seem to be willing to do measurements but then either misinterpret the results (due to lack of knowledge) or knowingly twist them to say what they want to say. Audiophiles on the other hand seem to reject the whole idea of taking measurements.
- userbinator 8y ago
  I wish it was all an elaborate joke, but unfortunately it's not. The rest of that site is just as perplexing and appears to cater to the same sort of people who believe in psychics. Here's one example: http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm http://www.machinadynamica.com/machina60.htm
  - tlrobinson 8y ago
    Wow, and I thought "audiophile" SATA cables were the dumbest audiophile gear you could buy https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/ https://jcat.eu/audiophile-sata-cable/
    - the8472 8y ago
      I see your 350€ sata cable and raise you a 7k£ ethernet cable. https://i.imgur.com/zFdITcQ.png https://i.imgur.com/zFdITcQ.png And if you are interested I also have a scattering-free, anti-jitter bridge to sell https://i.imgur.com/JrcKtyx.jpg https://i.imgur.com/JrcKtyx.jpg
- walrus01 8y ago
  sadly, no, there is a $10,000 1000BaseT ethernet cable that is a real product. Never underestimate the gullibility of a certain segment of the population.
twic 8y ago
And hopefully not the other Brilliant Pebbles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brilliant_Pebbles

gerdesj 8y ago

Quite. Why not also test your hearing first. Find a lab and offer them some serious money to test your "built in" equipment. Then you can get serious on delivering the best possible input. While you are at it, you'd better hire a decent studio and the artists, sound engineers etc and re-record to your spec. Recordings are normally designed to work reasonably well across anything from a car stereo to a disco. Now crack out your oscilloscope and work away at the environment, which is what gets in between your input and ears. If you were really serious then why not buy a small plot of land well away from the city and build a custom man cave (yes it will be a man!) Oh and don't forget to get your FLACs recorded in 32 bit - you'll need all those extra bits to be able to treat your golden ears properly 8)

dylan604 8y ago
>If you were really serious then why not buy a small plot of land well away from the city and build a custom man cave (yes it will be a man!) This is my dream retirement concept, except mine would be to continue taking pictures of the night sky. But thanks for the idea. Now I can plan on listening to high quality choons while I'm at it!
- gerdesj 8y ago
  Make sure you don't listen to anything louder than a cockroach farting: the vibrations will disturb your £300k gear. Perhaps you can find some sort of device to deliver the choons close to your ears to avoid problems. No obviously not, you will need heavy plant and a lot of conc. to start off the job. Then there will be the stabilisation and damping systems ... and ... and ...

timrichard 8y ago

...and in most of the photos of their listening rooms, no acoustic treatment. Even a bit would make quite a noticeable difference for a few hundred bucks (or less, DIY). Zero difference would be 'running in cables', and other things they read about on forums.

judgardner 8y ago
Yeah the lack of acoustic treatment is a running thing I see. A few absorbing panels at primary reflection points coupled with diffusers should be the next upgrade on a midrange system. Bass traps as well depending on your sub and music.

mikeash 8y ago

If they quantified stuff, they wouldn’t be an audiophile.

lukeschlather 8y ago

One of the guys in the article actually did have someone use an oscilloscope to measure the interference from his neighbor's appliances.

naikrovek 8y ago

Even if it did, the results would be questioned, and ultimately ignored. There is no rationalizing with an audiophool.