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Yes, there is a gap, but that will be closing quickly. What I hate to see is people using this gap as a reason against crypto/ blockchain as if every new techno

Yes, there is a gap, but that will be closing quickly. What I hate to see is people using this gap as a reason against crypto/ blockchain as if every new technology is ideally perfect and meets every demand. This is the type of mindset that would have prevented us from having computers, laptops, and cell phones because computers the size of record courts don't make sense, computers take too much energy to be portable, and nobody wants to carry around a suitcase all day to make a phone call. It's all part of technological maturation.

nradov 8y ago
How will the gap be closing quickly? Computers the size of tennis courts made a lot of sense when those were the fastest, cheapest way of calculating ballistics tables.
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- hanniabu 8y ago
  The ecosystem is gathering a lot of contributors and researchers. A lot of the issues revolving around tools, infrastructure, scaling, security, user experience have various solutions in development, which are expected to come to fruition in (roughly) the next 2 years.
  - nradov 8y ago
    Those are merely wishes, not rational expectations based on a realistic engineering schedule.
    - hanniabu 8y ago
      This is considering realistic scheduling. If following marketing roadmaps these items would have either already been done or will be done in 2019.
      - laurentl 8y ago
        I didn’t know marketing roadmaps were considered realistic scheduling :D
        hanniabu 8y ago
        They're not and that's my point. Id following these publicized roadmaps then these items would be either completed already or completed next year. Realistically they'll be completed in roughly the next 2 years.
  - spookthesunset 8y ago
    > A lot of the issues revolving around tools, infrastructure, scaling, security, user experience have various solutions in development, which are expected to come to fruition in (roughly) the next 2 years. This line has been the standard party line in Bitcoin land since time began. Everything about bitcoin is "just around the corner". All of your talk is a thin veil around the hidden message: "don't sell your Bitcoin or it will crater the value of my stash!" and of course layered under that message is "buy my Bitcoin!!!!".
    - hanniabu 8y ago
      I've mentioned in a another comment this isn't about Bitcoin and that the ecosystem is much larger than that with other developments.
      - madeofpalk 8y ago
        What ecosystem? What developments? What use case? Again, its been like 10+ years now of 'cryptocurrencies' and its failed to provide a use case apart from 'speculating' and getting yourself uninvited from family Christmas.
spookthesunset 8y ago
> Yes, there is a gap, but that will be closing quickly. Bitcoin is more than 10 years old. That is almost as old as 1st generation iPhones. How much longer do we have to wait to fix these deeply fundamental flaws in the stack? > It's all part of technological maturation. An alternative interpretation might be that Bitcoin is fundamentally broken and isn't a useable technology.
- hanniabu 8y ago
  Bitcoin is 10 years old and may or may not be broken depending on the end use case, but that isn't the only crypto/ blockchain project. For you to center the conversation around those arguments shows you're not very informed on the topic. A lot of developmental progress in the ecosystem with models/architectures, tools, and infrastructure hasn't happened until recently (past year, give or take).
  - hanniabu 8y ago
    Not sure why this is getting downvoted, but would love some feedback.
    - bduerst 8y ago
      I didn't downvote but the tone here is pretty patronizing: >For you to center the conversation around those arguments shows you're not very informed on the topic. The "it's too complicated for you to understand" tact is a tired, overly-used canned response from cryptocurrency evangelists, who seek (intentionally or not) to derail discussions about very real issues.
      - hanniabu 8y ago
        I can see that, but at the same time I'm tired of people (intentionally or not) using Bitcoin as a representation of the entire ecosystem.
  - spookthesunset 8y ago

nradov 8y ago

How will the gap be closing quickly? Computers the size of tennis courts made a lot of sense when those were the fastest, cheapest way of calculating ballistics tables.

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hanniabu 8y ago
The ecosystem is gathering a lot of contributors and researchers. A lot of the issues revolving around tools, infrastructure, scaling, security, user experience have various solutions in development, which are expected to come to fruition in (roughly) the next 2 years.
- nradov 8y ago
  Those are merely wishes, not rational expectations based on a realistic engineering schedule.
  - hanniabu 8y ago
    This is considering realistic scheduling. If following marketing roadmaps these items would have either already been done or will be done in 2019.
    - laurentl 8y ago
      I didn’t know marketing roadmaps were considered realistic scheduling :D
      - hanniabu 8y ago
        They're not and that's my point. Id following these publicized roadmaps then these items would be either completed already or completed next year. Realistically they'll be completed in roughly the next 2 years.
- spookthesunset 8y ago
  > A lot of the issues revolving around tools, infrastructure, scaling, security, user experience have various solutions in development, which are expected to come to fruition in (roughly) the next 2 years. This line has been the standard party line in Bitcoin land since time began. Everything about bitcoin is "just around the corner". All of your talk is a thin veil around the hidden message: "don't sell your Bitcoin or it will crater the value of my stash!" and of course layered under that message is "buy my Bitcoin!!!!".
  - hanniabu 8y ago
    I've mentioned in a another comment this isn't about Bitcoin and that the ecosystem is much larger than that with other developments.
    - madeofpalk 8y ago
      What ecosystem? What developments? What use case? Again, its been like 10+ years now of 'cryptocurrencies' and its failed to provide a use case apart from 'speculating' and getting yourself uninvited from family Christmas.

spookthesunset 8y ago

> Yes, there is a gap, but that will be closing quickly. Bitcoin is more than 10 years old. That is almost as old as 1st generation iPhones. How much longer do we have to wait to fix these deeply fundamental flaws in the stack? > It's all part of technological maturation. An alternative interpretation might be that Bitcoin is fundamentally broken and isn't a useable technology.

hanniabu 8y ago
Bitcoin is 10 years old and may or may not be broken depending on the end use case, but that isn't the only crypto/ blockchain project. For you to center the conversation around those arguments shows you're not very informed on the topic. A lot of developmental progress in the ecosystem with models/architectures, tools, and infrastructure hasn't happened until recently (past year, give or take).
- hanniabu 8y ago
  Not sure why this is getting downvoted, but would love some feedback.
  - bduerst 8y ago
    I didn't downvote but the tone here is pretty patronizing: >For you to center the conversation around those arguments shows you're not very informed on the topic. The "it's too complicated for you to understand" tact is a tired, overly-used canned response from cryptocurrency evangelists, who seek (intentionally or not) to derail discussions about very real issues.
    - hanniabu 8y ago
      I can see that, but at the same time I'm tired of people (intentionally or not) using Bitcoin as a representation of the entire ecosystem.
- spookthesunset 8y ago