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I have a huge concern over anyone who is stating that the CCs are to partly to be blamed. Yes, they were used for firearms. Firearms are expensive and plastic (

by monksy 8y ago

I have a huge concern over anyone who is stating that the CCs are to partly to be blamed. Yes, they were used for firearms. Firearms are expensive and plastic (for the most part) is the currency in the US. For me that's flipping the bozo bit for that individual. It's not "fascism" or "trump" that we should be afraid of. It's the mob rule.

PhasmaFelis 8y ago
> It's not "fascism" or "trump" that we should be afraid of. If you don't have anything to fear from Trump, that's nice for you, but given that he's openly calling for me and people dear to me to have our civil rights revoked, it's pretty shitty of you to tell me that I shouldn't be afraid of him.
- monksy 8y ago
  In America, we have 3 branches of government with checks and balances additionally we have very difficult to modify rights given in the constitution. Things are not likely to change.
  - PhasmaFelis 8y ago
    Gay people weren't given the federal right to marry until three years ago. Trans people still don't have equal protection under the law. And none of the rights that do exist are enshrined in the Constitution at all.
  - KozmoNau7 8y ago
    And yet attacks on gays, blacks and other minorities have risen sharply since Trump came to power, perpetrated by people emboldened by his (quasi-)fascist rhetoric and bluster.
marcosdumay 8y ago
> It's not "fascism" or "trump" that we should be afraid of. Oh, people should really be concerned about fascism. It's just not coming from the groups outed trying to bring it (what should be obvious, outed groups do not succeed). But there are people pushing hard for individual-erasing collectivism, explicitly labeling people in ethnics belief and sex, and suppressing every unaligned idea to the point where it's not viable for the people that have them to even speak. (A late edit: I don't think Pathernon is on this group. They did nothing wrong, they just happen to be in a place where no move was a good one.)

by monksy 8y ago

PhasmaFelis 8y ago

> It's not "fascism" or "trump" that we should be afraid of. If you don't have anything to fear from Trump, that's nice for you, but given that he's openly calling for me and people dear to me to have our civil rights revoked, it's pretty shitty of you to tell me that I shouldn't be afraid of him.

monksy 8y ago
In America, we have 3 branches of government with checks and balances additionally we have very difficult to modify rights given in the constitution. Things are not likely to change.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago
  Gay people weren't given the federal right to marry until three years ago. Trans people still don't have equal protection under the law. And none of the rights that do exist are enshrined in the Constitution at all.
- KozmoNau7 8y ago
  And yet attacks on gays, blacks and other minorities have risen sharply since Trump came to power, perpetrated by people emboldened by his (quasi-)fascist rhetoric and bluster.

marcosdumay 8y ago

> It's not "fascism" or "trump" that we should be afraid of. Oh, people should really be concerned about fascism. It's just not coming from the groups outed trying to bring it (what should be obvious, outed groups do not succeed). But there are people pushing hard for individual-erasing collectivism, explicitly labeling people in ethnics belief and sex, and suppressing every unaligned idea to the point where it's not viable for the people that have them to even speak. (A late edit: I don't think Pathernon is on this group. They did nothing wrong, they just happen to be in a place where no move was a good one.)