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This just feels like whataboutism, no one denies that the European imperialism was bad.

• lordnacho 8y ago
  It is definitely not whataboutism. Here's a definition for you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism I'm not creating a false moral equivalence between European Imperialism and China, I'm refuting it.
  • mynameisvlad 8y ago
    > Before we throw about the term "Imperialism", let's remember what kinds of things the European powers did You imply a relationship between the two throughout the rest of your comment, starting from the first sentence. Just because you make the refutation in the last sentence does not suddenly wave away the whataboutism you employ through the rest of your comment; directly comparing the two.
    • lordnacho 8y ago
      Whataboutism is basically this: A: X is bad, B does that. B is bad. B: Y is bad too, and A does that. You're just as bad as me. What I said was: Imperialism is A, B, C, D. China doesn't do any of those, so let's not call them imperialist. Now you can argue about what imperialism is, but you can't argue that I'm making a different kind of argument to whataboutism.